PP again, what is happening is closer to Convenience sampling. |
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Where is your MPH from? I think you might want to return it. Widespread testing - including of asyptomatic people - is critical to flattening the curve (again!) If people had been tested frequently back in March, we wouldn't be in this mess. Frequent testing (and tracing and quarentining when needed) now is our only shot at turning things around again. |
| NY state just added Maryland to their list of states from which you can't come to NY (or you have to quarantine for 14 days). I thought Maryland was doing well. What are they basing this on??? |
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from today's Washington Post live updates:
Hogan says current coronavirus numbers don’t justify rolling back state’s reopening Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan (R) said Tuesday that Maryland’s current coronavirus numbers do not justify rolling back the state’s reopening plan. But he said he is continuing to monitor the state’s positivity rate, acute and hospital bed usage, and number of deaths in the state, and will not hesitate to “do something” if it is “absolutely necessary.” “They are all trending in the right direction, unlike some other states,” Hogan said during a discussion with Scott Gottlieb, former commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration. “But as soon as we start to see numbers that don’t look good, it’s going to cause us to take whatever actions that are necessary. … My goal is to try to keep the economy safely open because the economic crisis is nearly as bad as or just as bad as the health crisis.” Local health leaders in six of the state’s most populous jurisdictions have called on Hogan to reconsider the activities the state allows during the pandemic, including large gatherings and indoor service in bars and restaurants. These health officials say they are increasingly concerned about the number of cases and rate of transmission. Last week Hogan called on local leaders to clamp down on bar and restaurant owners that were not adhering to mask wearing and social distancing requirements after seeing “some concerning and alarming numbers” among people under 35 years old who he said are going to parties and bars and not following the rules. He said he remains concerned about the positivity rate among young people, which is nearly twice the rate of those 35 and older. Hogan said he is advising people who visit hot-spot states such as Florida or Georgia to watch for symptoms, get tested and self-quarantine. “We’re seeing people come up from some of the Southern states,” he said. “It was happening back from New York and New Jersey, back when they were hot spots. Now we’re seeing Southern states come up, but you can’t close your borders.” By Ovetta Wiggins |
| You can't close your borders, but you can close the damn bars, Governor Hogan. |
One of the PPs here. To add to this, to achieve a truly random sample you’d need to knock on doors with a badge and a gun and a warrant and forcibly shove swabs up peoples noses. I am not advocating this approach, but thinking on it helps to understand what the is meant by a random sample. |
I've been TELLING you guys all through this thread that Maryland was not on the right course. I was called an idiot a few times, I think. People in MD have been too focused on LATE indicators like hospitalization and death. And they have been overly focused on testing positivity percent. To keep spread under control, most states and countries have settled on watching the following metrics: 1) New cases per million per day of under 20 (new cases per 100,000 per day of under 2) 2) Percent positivity of less than 2% 3) Testing widely (not sure exactly how this is measured -- on www.covidexitstrategy.org they have a target set and testing 100% of that target or better yet 150% is a good thing[) States that are getting put on NY/NJ/CT quarantine list are doing badly on the above measures. Their new cases per million per day are more than 100 (more than 10 per 100,000) Their positivity rate is higher than 10%. Maryland has about 120 new cases per million per day and it is rising fast. Yeah our positivity rate is 5% or so but we aren't going to be able to stay there much longer because we have more and more new cases. |
Yes, I know. II think we have 28 counties? I didn't feel like doing all the math for all of them. My point was just that the high rate of new COVID cases per day wasn't just in the "urban" communities. |
+1, right there with you on the important stats. |
+2. It has been so frustrating watching this happen and seeing Hogan do nothing but go on talk shows to promote himself. |
He has a book to sell and a presidency to run for, after all. That's more important. |
+3 And the state reports per Gov. Hogan’s site higher than 5% now and people want to deny facts and say we are “flat” and steady. No, we are on a no travel list now. |
| Did we not anticipate an increase after the long weekend? I thought it was expected. |