People who were teens in 80's... what did you think of 16 candles at the time?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sad everyone is denigrating 80s movies. Because if you do that, your throwing our (sexist) music under the bus too. And if you so that, then you lose our spirit.

What I loved about the 80s is that we were scrappy and fun and a little wild. We did outrageous things and it was OKAY.

It was acceptable back then. It is not today, and I'm glad. Having sex with someone who is passed out is considered rape now. It wasn't back then.

I’m glad about that too, but I still love the 80s movies.

I haven't watched 16 Candles in a long time but I remember liking it when I did see it - typical 80's flick. I don't really remember the movie very well tbh so I can't speak about the controversial scenes being discussed here. But I want to point out that even back in the 80's it was NOT o.k. to have sex with or otherwise take advantage of a passed out person.

It's a movie. We knew that back then.

We knew it was bad but it was legal.

It seriously was not something that I heard of happening to anyone and I went to A LOT of parties. Yes, drunken hookups happened but nobody was having sex with anyone passed out cold - that would have been rape even back then.

Goody for you. But you are wrong, it happened all the time and my family is in law enforcement and they will tell you a passed out girl who reported a rape was called a “hoochie rape”... meaning she was a drunk slut and oh well he had sex with her she should not be a hoochie.

What charming relatives you have.

They don’t agree with it dumbass but they work with idiots and racists.

I see that you’re charming as well.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean ... it was the 80s. I was sleeping with my 11th grade English teacher and two other teachers mysteriously left halfway through the year under similar circumstances with other kids. Looking back, this was insane. At the time it seemed exciting.

Male teacher??

Yes. He was 28, I was 17. We had sex everywhere. His locked classroom, his car, his house. It horrifies me to think of a teacher preying on my teen daughter, but back in the day, it didn’t feel wrong.
The other two teachers were female and young. One was sleeping with the captain of the football team.

Back in the 80's my female Spanish teacher was sleeping with a 17 year old male classmate, no one knew it was going on, but she was actually called down to the office and arrested at school.

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Anonymous wrote:How has a 37YO never seen this movie until now?

I’m 35. I never watched it as a teen.

I became curious about it when it was referenced in To All The Boys I Loved Before on Netflix. Conveniently, 16 candles is also on Netflix. I watched and it was horrible! Every single character was the epitome of the ugly American stereotype. It wasn’t funny just crude, potty humor and teen slapstick. This was supposed to be romantic??!

WTF?

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Anonymous wrote:Fast times at Ridgemont High holds up. Last American Virgin too. The real ugliness of the teenage years.

I don't know I can see today's millennial and generation z getting bent out of shape that the 26 year old stereo sales guy had sex with a supposed 19 year old Stacey (who was actually 15, but lied and said she was 19).

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Anonymous[b wrote:]I am 100% Asian and felt zero offense, both then & now at the whole Long Duck Dong character.
I thought it was funny how they always played that “dong” sound whenever he was featured, but I can see how certain people can get offended.[/b]

What I loved about the movie was the kind things Molly Ringwald’s Father told her that night on the sofa.
That if the guy she likes does not seem interested in her, then there is definitely something wrong w/him, not her.

I would have loved a Father who could have built me up like that.

All girls should have the opportunity to hear they are special by their own Dads.
There would be less tolerance on their end for staying w/men who treat them bad I believe.

I have some Asian friends who think the Long Duck Dong character was pretty funny as well. I assume that's not the common reaction among Asians though.

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Anonymous wrote:At the time I thought is was creepy that Jake was interested in Samantha. Samantha looked like a little kid. He Came off as a pedophile.

+1000 Could you image Jake showing up to take your 13-14 year old daughter on a date?

Times were different, as many have noted here.
The most popular girl in my 7th grade class in 1984 was dating a senior in high school. We were all insanely jealous that she was going to the prom.

When I was 16-17 I routinely dated guys who were 19-20, which I have seen some people here characterize as rape. I did not and still do not think there was anything wrong or rapey about having been that age and dating guys who were three years older than me.

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I was a teenager in the 80s. I never liked any of his movies for teens and couldn’t understand the appeal. All the girls were far too neurotic.

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Anonymous wrote:I remember thinking Long Duck Dong was offensive. But the rest seemed completely normal.

I don't want to make this political, but when the Kavanaugh stuff was happening I had a hard time explaining to my younger friends that date rape wasn't something we had words for. Girls were blamed for making poor choices and we all took that at face value--it would have been unthinkable for many of us to call the police or tell your parents. Thank goodness times have changed.

This. My college roommate was messing around with a guy and he didn’t stop when she asked him. We didn’t have words for it. It wasn’t considered rape, nor consent. There was nothing to do but try to forget about it. If she hadn’t been a virgin that might have been easier. He probably was one too.

To my eternal regret I didn’t have the emotional maturity or the words to support her at the time...going to the police (or more likely campus security) would not have helped. We just didn’t talk about it after that weekend. I couldn’t handle it and didn’t know how to help.

How old are you people? I'm 51, about to mark my 30th college reunion, and we certainly knew what date rape was when I was in college. We absolutely "had words for" it. I realize that awareness has expanded and some norms have in fact changed, but unless you're elderly, date rape was already well understood decades ago.

I’m 57, and the same here.

How many date rape victims do you know that went to the police and got a conviction?

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The whole point of all the things you all are offended at was to offend. Of course the Dong stuff was offensive - it was intended to show how backwards and racist the grandparents were. Of course the non-consensual sex stuff was supposed to offend.

That was the whole point of it all, the OMG! At the same time as a very sweet story was being told about the girl.

You all take everything too seriously.

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I never liked 16 Candles. I thought most of it was gross even in the 80s.

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A bit of an aside but I was a college freshman in 1997 and remember part of freshman orientation was a required speech by a woman who had been date raped. Even then I think it was eye opening for many of us. I don’t think I was super naive but maybe so...I remember wondering in high school if my English teacher was coming on to me and a girl in my class who I wasn’t even friends with warned me about being alone with him.

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Anonymous wrote:At the time I thought is was creepy that Jake was interested in Samantha. Samantha looked like a little kid. He Came off as a pedophile.

+1000 Could you image Jake showing up to take your 13-14 year old daughter on a date?

Times were different, as many have noted here.
The most popular girl in my 7th grade class in 1984 was dating a senior in high school. We were all insanely jealous that she was going to the prom.

When I was 16-17 I routinely dated guys who were 19-20, which I have seen some people here characterize as rape. I did not and still do not think there was anything wrong or rapey about having been that age and dating guys who were three years older than me.

She was not 16-17 she was like 13-14 dating a 18-19 year old. Would you let your freshman dd date him? Jake breaks up with a full grown woman to date an underdeveloped girl. This is not normal or desirable....it pretty sick.

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Anonymous wrote:At the time I thought is was creepy that Jake was interested in Samantha. Samantha looked like a little kid. He Came off as a pedophile.

+1000 Could you image Jake showing up to take your 13-14 year old daughter on a date?

Times were different, as many have noted here.
The most popular girl in my 7th grade class in 1984 was dating a senior in high school. We were all insanely jealous that she was going to the prom.

When I was 16-17 I routinely dated guys who were 19-20, which I have seen some people here characterize as rape. I did not and still do not think there was anything wrong or rapey about having been that age and dating guys who were three years older than me.

She was not 16-17 she was like 13-14 dating a 18-19 year old. Would you let your freshman dd date him? Jake breaks up with a full grown woman to date an underdeveloped girl. This is not normal or desirable....it pretty sick.

In the movie, Samantha is 16 (duh, it’s her birthday) and Jake is 18. She’s a sophomore, he’s a senior. No big deal.

Underdeveloped? Most thin girls in HS don’t have boobs.

I did think their personalities were an odd match, but not their age or level of “development”.

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Anonymous wrote:The whole point of all the things you all are offended at was to offend. Of course the Dong stuff was offensive - it was intended to show how backwards and racist the grandparents were. Of course the non-consensual sex stuff was supposed to offend.

That was the whole point of it all, the OMG! At the same time as a very sweet story was being told about the girl.

You all take everything too seriously.

Agree. Everything was way less PC and serious back then. Which was good and bad.

The movie was based on her perspective as a “normal” teen who is disgusted by all of the crazy and offensive things around her.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 100% Asian and felt zero offense, both then & now at the whole Long Duck Dong character.
I thought it was funny how they always played that “dong” sound whenever he was featured, but I can see how certain people can get offended.

What I loved about the movie was the kind things Molly Ringwald’s Father told her that night on the sofa.
That if the guy she likes does not seem interested in her, then there is definitely something wrong w/him, not her.

I would have loved a Father who could have built me up like that.

All girls should have the opportunity to hear they are special by their own Dads.
There would be less tolerance on their end for staying w/men who treat them bad I believe.

Another Asian here, born in Asia. I'm not offended either and found all of it funny.