Ben Carson and the Pyramids

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:I can't believe we haven't discussed this yet. For those who have been living in a cave -- or perhaps a pyramid -- in 1998 Ben Carson gave a speech in which he said:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain."

Okay, okay. This was 1998 and who among us has not articulated our own personal theory about the pyramids (yes, normally in different circumstances then a speech, but still). So, certainly by now Carson has evolved on this issue, right? Wrong. Asked about his theory yesterday, he said:

"It's still my belief, yes. The pyramids were made in a way that they had hermetically sealed compartments. You would need that if you were trying to preserve grain for a long period of time."

For those who may not be up on their pyramidology, other than the burial chambers, the pyramids are solid. The Egyptians also had grain silos which were used, surprisingly enough, to store grain.

So that is a crazy belief but believing in a person who can bering forth ten plagues or that rises from the dead is not? I think he is wring, but I don't think his belief is any crazier than the beliefs of many other people.

Plus, everyone knows that the pyramids are landing pads for goa'uld motherships. You act as if stargates are not real/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I can't believe we haven't discussed this yet. For those who have been living in a cave -- or perhaps a pyramid -- in 1998 Ben Carson gave a speech in which he said:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain."

Okay, okay. This was 1998 and who among us has not articulated our own personal theory about the pyramids (yes, normally in different circumstances then a speech, but still). So, certainly by now Carson has evolved on this issue, right? Wrong. Asked about his theory yesterday, he said:

"It's still my belief, yes. The pyramids were made in a way that they had hermetically sealed compartments. You would need that if you were trying to preserve grain for a long period of time."

For those who may not be up on their pyramidology, other than the burial chambers, the pyramids are solid. The Egyptians also had grain silos which were used, surprisingly enough, to store grain.

So that is a crazy belief but believing in a person who can bering forth ten plagues or that rises from the dead is not? I think he is wring, but I don't think his belief is any crazier than the beliefs of many other people.

Plus, everyone knows that the pyramids are landing pads for goa'uld motherships. You act as if stargates are not real/

That may be true to you. But it is one thing to believe in something that has not been observed. It is another to believe something despite detailed scientific evidence to the contrary. For instance, it is much harder to believe that the world is 10,000 years old than to believe that God made the universe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I can't believe we haven't discussed this yet. For those who have been living in a cave -- or perhaps a pyramid -- in 1998 Ben Carson gave a speech in which he said:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain."

Okay, okay. This was 1998 and who among us has not articulated our own personal theory about the pyramids (yes, normally in different circumstances then a speech, but still). So, certainly by now Carson has evolved on this issue, right? Wrong. Asked about his theory yesterday, he said:

"It's still my belief, yes. The pyramids were made in a way that they had hermetically sealed compartments. You would need that if you were trying to preserve grain for a long period of time."

For those who may not be up on their pyramidology, other than the burial chambers, the pyramids are solid. The Egyptians also had grain silos which were used, surprisingly enough, to store grain.

So that is a crazy belief but believing in a person who can bering forth ten plagues or that rises from the dead is not? I think he is wring, but I don't think his belief is any crazier than the beliefs of many other people.

Plus, everyone knows that the pyramids are landing pads for goa'uld motherships. You act as if stargates are not real/

That may be true to you. But it is one thing to believe in something that has not been observed. It is another to believe something despite detailed scientific evidence to the contrary. For instance, it is much harder to believe that the world is 10,000 years old than to believe that God made the universe.

No human was around to observe the creation of the earth. As such no human witnesset whether God did it. What we can and do observe is our current world, which is chock-full of physically observable and measurable phenomena which are full of time signatures, such as geology and isotope decays, we can look to the rocks and minerals that were here when the earth was created, and listen to what they say. And they tell us the earth is 4.54 billion years old.

As for the pyramids, there's no need for guessing or theories on their purpose - the Egyptians left behind extensive writings on the purpose of the pyramids, which we can read thanks to unlocking their language via the Rosetta Stone.

It's all fine and good to have one's theories, but when the actual evidence comes in (as has happened with the age of the earth and with the purpose of the pyramids), those theories no longer have relevance or accuracy and it's time to set them aside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:I can't believe we haven't discussed this yet. For those who have been living in a cave -- or perhaps a pyramid -- in 1998 Ben Carson gave a speech in which he said:

"My own personal theory is that Joseph built the pyramids to store grain. Now all the archeologists think that they were made for the pharaohs’ graves. But, you know, it would have to be something awfully big if you stop and think about it. And I don’t think it’d just disappear over the course of time to store that much grain."

Okay, okay. This was 1998 and who among us has not articulated our own personal theory about the pyramids (yes, normally in different circumstances then a speech, but still). So, certainly by now Carson has evolved on this issue, right? Wrong. Asked about his theory yesterday, he said:

"It's still my belief, yes. The pyramids were made in a way that they had hermetically sealed compartments. You would need that if you were trying to preserve grain for a long period of time."

For those who may not be up on their pyramidology, other than the burial chambers, the pyramids are solid. The Egyptians also had grain silos which were used, surprisingly enough, to store grain.

So that is a crazy belief but believing in a person who can bering forth ten plagues or that rises from the dead is not? I think he is wring, but I don't think his belief is any crazier than the beliefs of many other people.

Plus, everyone knows that the pyramids are landing pads for goa'uld motherships. You act as if stargates are not real/

That may be true to you. But it is one thing to believe in something that has not been observed. It is another to believe something despite detailed scientific evidence to the contrary. For instance, it is much harder to believe that the world is 10,000 years old than to believe that God made the universe.

No human was around to observe the creation of the earth. As such no human witnesset whether God did it. What we can and do observe is our current world, which is chock-full of physically observable and measurable phenomena which are full of time signatures, such as geology and isotope decays, we can look to the rocks and minerals that were here when the earth was created, and listen to what they say. And they tell us the earth is 4.54 billion years old.

As for the pyramids, there's no need for guessing or theories on their purpose - the Egyptians left behind extensive writings on the purpose of the pyramids, which we can read thanks to unlocking their language via the Rosetta Stone.

It's all fine and good to have one's theories, but when the actual evidence comes in (as has happened with the age of the earth and with the purpose of the pyramids), those theories no longer have relevance or accuracy and it's time to set them aside.

You are agreeing with me. The point is that holding a belief which contradicts the evidence is more problematic than holding a belief in something for which there is no evidence either way.

[Anonymous]

You'd think the way you all talk, Carson was praying over his patients rather than doing life saving surgery. Seems he can separate the two. I know that's a hard concept for liberals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You'd think the way you all talk, Carson was praying over his patients rather than doing life saving surgery. Seems he can separate the two. I know that's a hard concept for liberals.

Ha that's funny because you all think his surgical career will make him a good President. Separate those two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You'd think the way you all talk, Carson was praying over his patients rather than doing life saving surgery. Seems he can separate the two. I know that's a hard concept for liberals. [/quot
Ha that's funny because you all think his surgical career will make him a good President. Separate those two.

His religious beliefs did not interfere with his ability to do his job. Why would that change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You'd think the way you all talk, Carson was praying over his patients rather than doing life saving surgery. Seems he can separate the two. I know that's a hard concept for liberals. [/quot
Ha that's funny because you all think his surgical career will make him a good President. Separate those two.

His religious beliefs did not interfere with his ability to do his job. Why would that change?

It would change because his only demonstrable area of knowledge and expertise is in surgery - he seems woefully ignorant in all areas outside of that and instead whenever he is anywhere outside his comfort zone of surgery, we see repeated evidence that he falls back on "faith" and fudging facts, winging it and wacky personal theories. That is scary and dangerous if one is to consider he would be responsible for implementing a wide variety of areas of national and foreign policy outside his area of competency.