Jeff may have blood in his hands if there is another zoo shooting next year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

Bullshit. This whole thread is a political talking point. You have every right to have concerns if you feel unsafe but you forget that there were other kids whose safety was at risks. They were trying to enjoy the zoo just as your kids would have been and they too were impacted by the violence. But I guess their safety is a moot point and doesn't matter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

Bullshit. This whole thread is a political talking point. You have every right to have concerns if you feel unsafe but you forget that there were other kids whose safety was at risks. They were trying to enjoy the zoo just as your kids would have been and they too were impacted by the violence. But I guess their safety is a moot point and doesn't matter.

Please enlighten us. What political talking point is it to expect please don't shoot innocent bystanders, including children and families, in front of the zoo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's Jeff's sandbox. You do not like the rules, take your ball and go home.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

Bullshit. This whole thread is a political talking point. You have every right to have concerns if you feel unsafe but you forget that there were other kids whose safety was at risks. They were trying to enjoy the zoo just as your kids would have been and they too were impacted by the violence. But I guess their safety is a moot point and doesn't matter.

Please enlighten us. What political talking point is it to expect please don't shoot innocent bystanders, including children and families, in front of the zoo?

Thank you! I really don't want ANYONE (but especially children!) hurt in any way. That's why I am so adamant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously OP - if you get your news from DCUM, I'm worried about you.

Agreed. (Np here.). However, as someone relatively new to DC, I had no idea the day after Easter was sometimes a violent day at the zoo. The news didn't report it. I learned about the Calvert bridge shooting on DCUM. A random comment about AA family day made me do a lot of googling. It took a lot of time to figure out what AA Family Day was, it's history (both good and bad), and determine that my family and I should skip the zoo yesterday. We were actually planning to go but thankfully I did some research. But I never would have know it was an unsafe day if I only watched the local news.

Thanks for sharing that perspective as someone new to DC. Do you think you'll go next year? What would you say to friends or relatives who might be in town?

No way. I will avoid the zoo for all of Spring Break and Easter. I'm not going to risk my life and the lives of my family to be politically correct. I will tell all friends, relatives, and tourists to stay far away. The community needs to end this crap now. Right now, tourists all over the US are telling their families and communities how violent DC is and how normal people can't even visit the zoo on a Spring day. We who live here know that's not accurate, but this is the reputation DC will get.

Let's not forget who pays for and operates the zoo. The federal government and the Smithsonian.. It is the National Zoo, where locals and tourists should feel welcome. It's not some private local hunting ground for a few screwed up DC gang bangers.

Thank you for bringing up this obvious yet so-far-ignored point. Time for the zoo to step up and either ensure safety or suspend the event until safety is guaranteed and the city can improve, not worsen, our image.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

Bullshit. This whole thread is a political talking point. You have every right to have concerns if you feel unsafe but you forget that there were other kids whose safety was at risks. They were trying to enjoy the zoo just as your kids would have been and they too were impacted by the violence. But I guess their safety is a moot point and doesn't matter.

Please enlighten us. What political talking point is it to expect please don't shoot innocent bystanders, including children and families, in front of the zoo?

Are we talking about the innocent black children and their families also? Political talking point? You don't tune into certain radio stations where this topic is salivating fodder, do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:1. my sense is that the moderator of these forums goes out of his way to not offend his very diverse community. I think that understandable.
2. others get frustrated when they get called a racist for ever trying to have a frank discussion on the statistical link between race and crime.

these are delicate topics, certainly. not sure what the answer is other than to agree that it is a private forum and the moderator can moderate as he or she chooses.

That's crap. I have seen him take a sledge hammer to every group.

So he's equally enforcing a standard of conduct? Great!

Misconduct, more like it. If you read DCUM and are not offended at some point, I would want to check your pulse. But, everything has to have limits.

Can you please sell these as T-Shirts?

Yes. I think this tops my prior favorite slogan - "DCUM: You're Doing It Wrong!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:1. my sense is that the moderator of these forums goes out of his way to not offend his very diverse community. I think that understandable.
2. others get frustrated when they get called a racist for ever trying to have a frank discussion on the statistical link between race and crime.

these are delicate topics, certainly. not sure what the answer is other than to agree that it is a private forum and the moderator can moderate as he or she chooses.

That's crap. I have seen him take a sledge hammer to every group.

So he's equally enforcing a standard of conduct? Great!

Misconduct, more like it. If you read DCUM and are not offended at some point, I would want to check your pulse. But, everything has to have limits.

Can you please sell these as T-Shirts?

Yes. I think this tops my prior favorite slogan - "DCUM: You're Doing It Wrong!"

"DCUM: It's Not All About YOU!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so hypocritical. No way was there this much righteous indignation when schools are shot up and students killed by assassins. It's always the killers didn't get the help they needed or it's a case of abuse at home or people kill not guns or a myriad of other excuses. Not once did I read that these killers were an indictment if an ENTIRE race of people. Unlike here where posters say why aren't black people outraged and speak out?

Practice what you preach. The families of murdered children would appreciate it.

You don't have a basic understanding of statistics. Are you saying you would be as likely to allow your kid to attend a majority white school as you would allow them to go to Easter Monday at the zoo? But thanks for invoking murdered children in your little p.c. crusade, jerk.

Asshole. Don't give it if you can't take it. Basic understanding of stats? You need reading comprehension 099, jerk.

I bet you don't have a kid at all, right? You're probably pretty young. That's okay, but please do try to understand the perspective of those of us who live in the community and have kids (and, yes, understand statistics). And my personal opinion is that you shouldn't bring to bear murdered children for a political talking point.

Bullshit. This whole thread is a political talking point. You have every right to have concerns if you feel unsafe but you forget that there were other kids whose safety was at risks. They were trying to enjoy the zoo just as your kids would have been and they too were impacted by the violence. But I guess their safety is a moot point and doesn't matter.

Please enlighten us. What political talking point is it to expect please don't shoot innocent bystanders, including children and families, in front of the zoo?

Are we talking about the innocent black children and their families also? Political talking point? You don't tune into certain radio stations where this topic is salivating fodder, do you?

Are we talking about the millions of starving children worldwide who would do anything to live in the USA? No, we are just talking about annual violence by the zoo here. Have you noticed there are other threads?

[Anonymous]

^^^Oh, please. Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

This thread has run its course. Bottom line is that the "neighborhod" wants the event shut down even if there wasn't any violence.

We will agree to disagree. Good-night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has run its course. Bottom line is that the "neighborhod" wants the event shut down even if there wasn't any violence.

We will agree to disagree. Good-night.

*neighborhood*

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread has run its course. Bottom line is that the "neighborhod" wants the event shut down even if there wasn't any violence.

We will agree to disagree. Good-night.

*neighborhood*

And one would have to be high on crack to conclude that there "wasn't any violence"!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread has run its course. Bottom line is that the "neighborhod" wants the event shut down even if there wasn't any violence.

We will agree to disagree. Good-night.

Some of the gorillas in the zoo display more intelligence than you do. We can certainly agree to disagree.