Fairfax Virginia Union

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?

Wouldn't a good coach be able to develop kids that are more on the bubble, into players that can compete at that level? So seems it's either a lack of good coaching or a lack of talent identification. Maybe both?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?

Wouldn't a good coach be able to develop kids that are more on the bubble, into players that can compete at that level? So seems it's either a lack of good coaching or a lack of talent identification. Maybe both?
in my experience its money related. Tons of talent just cant afford it. They really need free academies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?

Wouldn't a good coach be able to develop kids that are more on the bubble, into players that can compete at that level? So seems it's either a lack of good coaching or a lack of talent identification. Maybe both?
in my experience its money related. Tons of talent just cant afford it. They really need free academies.

Who's going to foot the bill for free academies?!?!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?

Wouldn't a good coach be able to develop kids that are more on the bubble, into players that can compete at that level? So seems it's either a lack of good coaching or a lack of talent identification. Maybe both?


Imho, it is mostly due to a number of recent changes. Union changing over a handful of times and getting aligned with different partners. The brief GA is the future uprising that swayed parents of younger kids. And finally the age group change.

I think once things are allowed to settle down a bit (that is if the landscape can stop having seismic changes every other year) then Union will have the chance to build, at least on the girls side. They are geographically best positioned to capture the most talent. No matter how much parents try to trick themselves, driving out to Long park is not how you want to be spending your week.

Of course leadership must continue to push towards running the organization in a more professional manner, at least on par with other area clubs. Setting up a true pipeline so that there is a foundation of a team by u13 that they can add onto will need to be a priority.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?

Wouldn't a good coach be able to develop kids that are more on the bubble, into players that can compete at that level? So seems it's either a lack of good coaching or a lack of talent identification. Maybe both?


Imho, it is mostly due to a number of recent changes. Union changing over a handful of times and getting aligned with different partners. The brief GA is the future uprising that swayed parents of younger kids. And finally the age group change.

I think once things are allowed to settle down a bit (that is if the landscape can stop having seismic changes every other year) then Union will have the chance to build, at least on the girls side. They are geographically best positioned to capture the most talent. No matter how much parents try to trick themselves, driving out to Long park is not how you want to be spending your week.

Of course leadership must continue to push towards running the organization in a more professional manner, at least on par with other area clubs. Setting up a true pipeline so that there is a foundation of a team by u13 that they can add onto will need to be a priority.
never happening.. talent will keep going to Arlington and VDA. And there isn't enough elite kids in area. FVU needs to start with actually getting fields they own. Going to be alot of pissed off parents after next season.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Something people need to understand is FVU is different from Vienna, BRYC, Valor etc...what I mean is FVU holds the ECNL charter so they are their own entity and will simply choose the best players they can at tryouts. Just because you play for any of the clubs in the "union" is absolutely meaningless and FVU is not beholden to taking any of them. The rising U13s are a good example of that.

When McLean was part of VA Union McLean held the ECNL charter so VA Union was not its own entity. This is very different from what FVU is. The entire FVU org is a scam from the "6 national titles" of a org that has only existed for 2 years to any 'union' or clubs that are supposedly part of it.

Its time we as parents wise up and stop getting conned...pre ecnl for bryc, valor, vienna etc means youre in position to make the RL team and thats it

BRYC is technically the club that holds the ECNL charter, but realistically if they didn’t align with Vienna it would have been taken from them.


There are no ECNL “charters”. Please stop talking about something you know nothing about.

Yes there is, don't be obtuse. Everyone knows what was said is true.


ECNL is a dumpster fire.
Anonymous
Unless you have hard data supporting your dumpster fire claim, then you’re just a biased poster.

Anyone who has been to national events can tell you that both leagues have absolutely awful teams at the bottom and very good teams at the top.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.


How is it that in a county as large as Fairfax, no one can figure out how to field uniformly successful ECNL teams? I know there are several other options in neighboring counties. Is this area truly just oversaturated with clubs? There are so many kids here that I can't believe it's a lack of talent. Are kids on Arlington or VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?..


Yes, there are several players who excel at other sports and activities and want the flexibility RL and its coaches provide understanding about when these may overlap, and some of those same families and other families simply don't want the commitment level an ECNL generally demands. They are realists in that their kids can still potentially play in college and likely to end up at the same collegiate level with ECNL than with RL or their other activities.
Anonymous
Exactly! RL works great for our DD - she has other sports and commitments that she wouldn’t be able to do if she played for ECNL- and we have other kids in other travel sports so for us it would be doable if she was super committed/and wanted to play D1 but RL is just the right balance for us. (Playing sports in college was a hard balance for me so unless she’s all in we aren’t pushing that route)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:By the end of the season next year, people will realize how much FVU has fallen off.

The Boys have already fallen off (they were never really on) and the girls are headed straight for the cliff with no guardrails in sight
yep. And got lower tier players with parents who chased ECNL badge. Announcement will come next spring with the assumption that I expect little improvement.

Are kids on Arlington or VDA/VSA/PWSI second team, for example, choosing to play RL rather than FVU?
Fixed and yes!!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.

A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.


I know the girls by name. There quite a few ballers there. So happy for them.


Not FVU here. But know lots of FVU U14 made USID and ID2. No team wins with one good player. U13 and U14 won MA. So mush hate for this club makes no sense. Support DMV.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well done FVU! There is a lot of talent in that team.

A lot of talent is a stretch... There is one main talent that the team plays kickball towards and hopes she'll make something happen.


I know the girls by name. There quite a few ballers there. So happy for them.


Not FVU here. But know lots of FVU U14 made USID and ID2. No team wins with one good player. U13 and U14 won MA. So mush hate for this club makes no sense. Support DMV.
Outside if the youngster teams the angst was earned u11-8. No excuses.
Anonymous
The lack of structured pathway way before U12 is what hurts the long term talent pipeline most. Primarily the boys side given the girls seem to have something more aligned to that. Teams that feed in have absolutely zero connection to the club. They’ve never played for them, never played against them. You’re asking parents to take a huge gamble putting their kid there vs clubs you’ve likely played against since U-littles. The lack of competitiveness at several age groups and perceived second tier nature of the org doesn’t help either.
Anonymous
I agree that this is a huge factor. Some of the other stronger local clubs (both ECNL and mls hg) have a strong connection to their feeder clubs. At the very least, a coach from the feeder club who does a few practices a month, invitations to practices with club, and talks to the players and parents about the pathway. Makes. Will/Has made a huge difference IMO.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I agree that this is a huge factor. Some of the other stronger local clubs (both ECNL and mls hg) have a strong connection to their feeder clubs. At the very least, a coach from the feeder club who does a few practices a month, invitations to practices with club, and talks to the players and parents about the pathway. Makes. Will/Has made a huge difference IMO.


Yeah, very little of that from FVU. All they did was ask coaches to pick a few kids from their teams to train together starting in the fall, but never really evaluated anyone else. Maybe the coaches went to a couple of VPSL games, but I don’t even know. Six feeder clubs is way too many.
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