Would it upset you if your contractor used your (only) toilet to poop on a daily basis?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Contractors employ others too to work with them. I wasn't meaning you were the employer but he is and if he hires guys to work for him, he has to find a way to ensure hey have bathroom access. I don't know why it matters if he was working 5-6 hours a day or 8-10 hours a day. I also find it weird that you monitor him when he goes into the bathroom and listen for sounds to know that he pooped every day. Anyways. Just make it clear before you hire anyone else that they are not allowed to use your bathrooms. Are they allowed to get water from the sink? If not, make that clear. Be explicity and upfront before hiring about what things that relate to basic human function are off limits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Did you ever, even once, discuss this with him over the course of the many hours and weeks he was working in your house?

You. Personally.

Ever?

No.
After a certain point, I tried to avoid him as much as possible. He started breaking and damaging a lot of other things in the house.
The base of one toilet
The lid of another toilet
The bowl of the pedestal sink in the third bathroom (so each of the three bathrooms had damage from him in some way.)
Both our front porch and back porch furniture was damaged
The cement on both the back porch and front porch was damaged
The blinds in one bedroom were broken
He placed his drink bottles on built in shelves that caused water rings and the shelves will now need to be restained.
Broke one of the closet doors
He broke a sprinkler head in our yard (ran over with truck)
On at least two occasions he left our outside hose running after he left for the day.

Almost every day we’d discover something he had broken or damaged in our home and to be honest I just couldn’t look at him without being upset so I just avoided him.
By the time he was done every wall of the house has streaks of thinset and grout (dark) everywhere. Like a toddler would do, only higher up since he’s an adult.

All this—and the work was shoddy. Like I said, the other guy we’ve talked to said at least 2/3 will have to be ripped up.
Serious lippage issues
No leveling and you can feel yourself walking “uphill” or “downhill” throughout the house
Insufficient grout, or in some cases left with no grout!
Spacers left in between with grout on top, causing sharp lumps that could cut bare feet

This isn’t everything. Im getting really upset just typing all of this out though so I will stop.
There was no furniture inside rhe home during his work. Like I said, we had just moved and kept all our stuff in storage before moving it in so he could do the work. We stayed/slept in one room of the house that was not being worked on at all.

Why would it matter if I, and not my husband or other household member, discussed this with him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Contractors employ others too to work with them. I wasn't meaning you were the employer but he is and if he hires guys to work for him, he has to find a way to ensure hey have bathroom access. I don't know why it matters if he was working 5-6 hours a day or 8-10 hours a day. I also find it weird that you monitor him when he goes into the bathroom and listen for sounds to know that he pooped every day. Anyways. Just make it clear before you hire anyone else that they are not allowed to use your bathrooms. Are they allowed to get water from the sink? If not, make that clear. Be explicity and upfront before hiring about what things that relate to basic human function are off limits.

I didn’t monitor him or listen for sounds. I could smell it, and often he left physical evidence, as I explained in my op.

He did most of the work himself. He brought in help on just a very small percentage of the days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Did you ever, even once, discuss this with him over the course of the many hours and weeks he was working in your house?

You. Personally.

Ever?

No.
After a certain point, I tried to avoid him as much as possible. He started breaking and damaging a lot of other things in the house.
The base of one toilet
The lid of another toilet
The bowl of the pedestal sink in the third bathroom (so each of the three bathrooms had damage from him in some way.)
Both our front porch and back porch furniture was damaged
The cement on both the back porch and front porch was damaged
The blinds in one bedroom were broken
He placed his drink bottles on built in shelves that caused water rings and the shelves will now need to be restained.
Broke one of the closet doors
He broke a sprinkler head in our yard (ran over with truck)
On at least two occasions he left our outside hose running after he left for the day.

Almost every day we’d discover something he had broken or damaged in our home and to be honest I just couldn’t look at him without being upset so I just avoided him.
By the time he was done every wall of the house has streaks of thinset and grout (dark) everywhere. Like a toddler would do, only higher up since he’s an adult.

All this—and the work was shoddy. Like I said, the other guy we’ve talked to said at least 2/3 will have to be ripped up.
Serious lippage issues
No leveling and you can feel yourself walking “uphill” or “downhill” throughout the house
Insufficient grout, or in some cases left with no grout!
Spacers left in between with grout on top, causing sharp lumps that could cut bare feet

This isn’t everything. Im getting really upset just typing all of this out though so I will stop.
There was no furniture inside rhe home during his work. Like I said, we had just moved and kept all our stuff in storage before moving it in so he could do the work. We stayed/slept in one room of the house that was not being worked on at all.

Why would it matter if I, and not my husband or other household member, discussed this with him?

All of that and you're STILL mainly upset that he took a shit in your bathroom. Lady, you're a troll, and if not, you're compleltey crazy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP - I agree with you. It's inconsiderate for someone to poop every single day in your only accessible toilet when he's only in your home for limited hours.

If someone has a occasional emergency, that's understandable. But this is overly familiar and gross.

I had a workman in my home for just a few hours several years ago. Let's just say that after he left, I knew that he had eaten corn the night before. Nasty

Did you tell him not to use your toilet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That stinks.

Depends on how much fiber he’s eating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Did you ever, even once, discuss this with him over the course of the many hours and weeks he was working in your house?

You. Personally.

Ever?

No.
After a certain point, I tried to avoid him as much as possible. He started breaking and damaging a lot of other things in the house.
The base of one toilet
The lid of another toilet
The bowl of the pedestal sink in the third bathroom (so each of the three bathrooms had damage from him in some way.)
Both our front porch and back porch furniture was damaged
The cement on both the back porch and front porch was damaged
The blinds in one bedroom were broken
He placed his drink bottles on built in shelves that caused water rings and the shelves will now need to be restained.
Broke one of the closet doors
He broke a sprinkler head in our yard (ran over with truck)
On at least two occasions he left our outside hose running after he left for the day.

Almost every day we’d discover something he had broken or damaged in our home and to be honest I just couldn’t look at him without being upset so I just avoided him.
By the time he was done every wall of the house has streaks of thinset and grout (dark) everywhere. Like a toddler would do, only higher up since he’s an adult.

All this—and the work was shoddy. Like I said, the other guy we’ve talked to said at least 2/3 will have to be ripped up.
Serious lippage issues
No leveling and you can feel yourself walking “uphill” or “downhill” throughout the house
Insufficient grout, or in some cases left with no grout!
Spacers left in between with grout on top, causing sharp lumps that could cut bare feet

This isn’t everything. Im getting really upset just typing all of this out though so I will stop.
There was no furniture inside rhe home during his work. Like I said, we had just moved and kept all our stuff in storage before moving it in so he could do the work. We stayed/slept in one room of the house that was not being worked on at all.

Why would it matter if I, and not my husband or other household member, discussed this with him?

Why? Because you are an adult and you seem unhappy about this situation. So YOU needed to do something about it, rather than playing the hysterical, helpless female expecting her husband (or other household member ??) to do her dirty work because she is just sooo upset.

Is the contractor supposed to read your mind and just know that you didn’t want him pooping in your toilet?

You need to learn to speak your mind or to live with the consequences when you don’t. All of this is on you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I do envy people who are able to poop on command and decide the time and then never need to poop otherwise.

I am a woman but my body doesn't function in a way that allows me to decide I will poop at 7:15 every morning, and only at 7:15 every morning.

I absolutely do use bathrooms outside of my own home, otherwise there would be accidents. It just isn't possible for me to leave work or whatever I am doing to be home when my body decides it needs to evacuate my bowels or bladder. I can often hold it in for a short period of time but not all day.

I don't think under human rights, an employer can deny access to bathroom use during the work day. Physical labor and heat mean you need to drink to avoid dehydration and the expectation that one goes 8-10 hours without peeing or pooping isn't reasonable.

I think you need to make it clear before anyone takes a job that you do not allow use of your bathroom and that they would need an alternative. Then they can bring in a porta potty or decline the job.

OP here.
We weren't his employer. He is a contractor, we were his client. He set his own terms for what time of day/which days of the week he would work.
And if you read my OP (and several other posts) you would see that
1-he wasn't working 8-10 hours per day. He was working 5-6
2-we always expected he would use our toilet(s) to pee, and even the occasional "emergency" poop. We just didn't think it would be his daily routine to poop in our toilet.

Did you ever, even once, discuss this with him over the course of the many hours and weeks he was working in your house?

You. Personally.

Ever?

No.
After a certain point, I tried to avoid him as much as possible. He started breaking and damaging a lot of other things in the house.
The base of one toilet
The lid of another toilet
The bowl of the pedestal sink in the third bathroom (so each of the three bathrooms had damage from him in some way.)
Both our front porch and back porch furniture was damaged
The cement on both the back porch and front porch was damaged
The blinds in one bedroom were broken
He placed his drink bottles on built in shelves that caused water rings and the shelves will now need to be restained.
Broke one of the closet doors
He broke a sprinkler head in our yard (ran over with truck)
On at least two occasions he left our outside hose running after he left for the day.

Almost every day we’d discover something he had broken or damaged in our home and to be honest I just couldn’t look at him without being upset so I just avoided him.
By the time he was done every wall of the house has streaks of thinset and grout (dark) everywhere. Like a toddler would do, only higher up since he’s an adult.

All this—and the work was shoddy. Like I said, the other guy we’ve talked to said at least 2/3 will have to be ripped up.
Serious lippage issues
No leveling and you can feel yourself walking “uphill” or “downhill” throughout the house
Insufficient grout, or in some cases left with no grout!
Spacers left in between with grout on top, causing sharp lumps that could cut bare feet

This isn’t everything. Im getting really upset just typing all of this out though so I will stop.
There was no furniture inside rhe home during his work. Like I said, we had just moved and kept all our stuff in storage before moving it in so he could do the work. We stayed/slept in one room of the house that was not being worked on at all.

Why would it matter if I, and not my husband or other household member, discussed this with him?

All of that and you're STILL mainly upset that he took a shit in your bathroom. Lady, you're a troll, and if not, you're compleltey crazy.

I never said that is what I was "mainly upset" about. The issues I detailed above (and much more!) can be brought up/resolved in court.
The poop thing can't. So I brought it up here,

[Anonymous]

Sounds boorish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP - I agree with you. It's inconsiderate for someone to poop every single day in your only accessible toilet when he's only in your home for limited hours.

If someone has a occasional emergency, that's understandable. But this is overly familiar and gross.

I had a workman in my home for just a few hours several years ago. Let's just say that after he left, I knew that he had eaten corn the night before. Nasty

Did you tell him not to use your toilet?

Of course not.
Again, we expected him to use our toilet. We didn't expect him to take a daily dump in it for the 5 hours he was here.