Reporting Someone For Residency Fraud- FCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

So you are saying that FCPS allows residency fraud to encourage wealthy families to leave their neighborhood schoolsin some modern equity version of 1970s white flight?

I think the people who take advantage of the lax residency checks tend to be people who can’t afford to buy in the area. I’m not sure what the knock on effects are, but I think that they’ll keep the status quo, less they start to identify poor kids who shouldn’t be at low farms schools.

That is not the case at our high school.

Every family I know who cheated on residency (and I know multiple families who have faked residency) did so to get a bigger house for less money, or because the housing market for our high school is very tight, and they could not find a house to buy or rent.

Most of them rented in bounds early on, moving in late elementary or middle school, but did not change the address so they could attend our pyramid for years through graduation. Fcps does not check residency once you are in the system, do it is easy to do this.

One has their kid at a local private through 8th grade. They used Grandma's address to switch to public school and register for our high school, but they actually live in a really nice neighborhood in adjacent school zone.

Another family lives in a really, really nice house zoned for a neighboring high school. They openly use a family member's address that they do not live with.

One used a family member's address for several years from late elementary through middle school. Then, when the kid moved to high school, the family member sold the house to a family with several younger kids who also attended our local publics. The original kid managed to go through all of high school to graduation using a fake address, with the house having 2 families of kids using the address, the owner's kids and the kid using the fake adddress.

Fwiw, our high school is one that most certainly is getting rezoned, and our elementary is likely to bear the brunt of the high school rezoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Residency fraud allows a lot of poor students in Fairfax to go to lower farm schools. That’s a big reason why they won’t ever touch this.

It’d hurt equity more than help it.

So you are saying that FCPS allows residency fraud to encourage wealthy families to leave their neighborhood schoolsin some modern equity version of 1970s white flight?

I think the people who take advantage of the lax residency checks tend to be people who can’t afford to buy in the area. I’m not sure what the knock on effects are, but I think that they’ll keep the status quo, less they start to identify poor kids who shouldn’t be at low farms schools.

That is not the case at our high school.

Every family I know who cheated on residency (and I know multiple families who have faked residency) did so to get a bigger house for less money, or because the housing market for our high school is very tight, and they could not find a house to buy or rent.

Most of them rented in bounds early on, moving in late elementary or middle school, but did not change the address so they could attend our pyramid for years through graduation. Fcps does not check residency once you are in the system, do it is easy to do this.

One has their kid at a local private through 8th grade. They used Grandma's address to switch to public school and register for our high school, but they actually live in a really nice neighborhood in adjacent school zone.

Another family lives in a really, really nice house zoned for a neighboring high school. They openly use a family member's address that they do not live with.

One used a family member's address for several years from late elementary through middle school. Then, when the kid moved to high school, the family member sold the house to a family with several younger kids who also attended our local publics. The original kid managed to go through all of high school to graduation using a fake address, with the house having 2 families of kids using the address, the owner's kids and the kid using the fake adddress.

Fwiw, our high school is one that most certainly is getting rezoned, and our elementary is likely to bear the brunt of the high school rezoning.

I don't knos how that last family managed to pull it off through high school, with another family with kids living in that house. I csn only assume that either FCPS knew and looked the other way, or because the new family did not have high school kids, the elementary, middle and high school don't communicate.

How hard would it be for the high schools to assign 1-2 people per high school to spend 1 day going through a spreadsheet of addresses of all students, and marking the ones that have multiple families using the same addresses, then spending 1 dsy running the duplicate addresses through Fairfax County Icare to check the family name against ownership, then a third day contacting the parents who are duplicates or who do not match with Icare and asking them to bring in proof of residency or disenroll?

If it is really not happening often, then they could get through the entire process in less than 3 days.

Then, FCPS should also require proof of residency when a family switches to middle and high school. This would be quite simple to do.

If they can nag their military families for impact aide forms to the bitter end, FCPS can easily do basic residency checks.

[Anonymous]

Definitely turn her in for her deceitful, thieving behavior. But please try to refrain from using the phrase ”queen bee of the admins” again……..

For everyone saying FCPS won’t do anything—not true! I know a family who recently moved into the area and rented a house in a good FCPS school district for their HS-aged kids, and were shocked to get a knock on their door accusing them of residency fraud. It turned out the landlords were living in a cheaper apartment elsewhere but also using the SFH address for their own HS-aged kid. So the family’s lease unexpectedly ended and they are house-hunting in earnest now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Definitely turn her in for her deceitful, thieving behavior. But please try to refrain from using the phrase ”queen bee of the admins” again……..

For everyone saying FCPS won’t do anything—not true! I know a family who recently moved into the area and rented a house in a good FCPS school district for their HS-aged kids, and were shocked to get a knock on their door accusing them of residency fraud. It turned out the landlords were living in a cheaper apartment elsewhere but also using the SFH address for their own HS-aged kid. So the family’s lease unexpectedly ended and they are house-hunting in earnest now.

How rotten of the landlords.

Is this recent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Definitely turn her in for her deceitful, thieving behavior. But please try to refrain from using the phrase ”queen bee of the admins” again……..

For everyone saying FCPS won’t do anything—not true! I know a family who recently moved into the area and rented a house in a good FCPS school district for their HS-aged kids, and were shocked to get a knock on their door accusing them of residency fraud. It turned out the landlords were living in a cheaper apartment elsewhere but also using the SFH address for their own HS-aged kid. So the family’s lease unexpectedly ended and they are house-hunting in earnest now.

How rotten of the landlords.

Is this recent?

...a family who recently moved into the area
...the family’s lease unexpectedly ended and they are house-hunting in earnest now.

Did you bother to read any of what they wrote?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Years ago, I reported blatant fraud when a mutual contact shared that my elderly neighbor might need some looking after since she lived alone. What a surprise - her 2 grandchildren had transferred to our neighborhood HS the school year before and were undoubtedly my DC’s classmates (one on same sports team). Mom was driving in from MD and dropping 2DC off to the HS daily. Kids never stayed over at grandma’s and clearly they were just using her address. So, I reported. Nothing was done. Both graduated from HS - got accepted to colleges.

I am wondering how kids can signup in grandma address, I know it is more than common, but isn’t it custody papers needed for this? And it is not just because grandma babysit afterschool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Years ago, I reported blatant fraud when a mutual contact shared that my elderly neighbor might need some looking after since she lived alone. What a surprise - her 2 grandchildren had transferred to our neighborhood HS the school year before and were undoubtedly my DC’s classmates (one on same sports team). Mom was driving in from MD and dropping 2DC off to the HS daily. Kids never stayed over at grandma’s and clearly they were just using her address. So, I reported. Nothing was done. Both graduated from HS - got accepted to colleges.

I am wondering how kids can signup in grandma address, I know it is more than common, but isn’t it custody papers needed for this? And it is not just because grandma babysit afterschool.

If the person lives in Fairfax County, it might be that this is okay. It also might be that they have approval through pupil placement for child care or something like that.

On the other hand,, they may just be flat out lying.