The Fork is back on?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The unions just need to have their lawyer represent the people at CFPB who took the fork and were fired anyway.

At least at my agency that isn't how it works. You are not part of the Fork until you sign a settlement agreement, the e-mail to OPM just puts you on a list of people that are interested in the Fork and the agency then decides if they are going to offer it to everyone that expressed interest.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.

That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.

I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.

Guess it surprises me it's 100% (I assumed there would at least be a couple who were already resigning for other jobs or family relocation) but I expected it to be high.

For the ones taking regular retirement, it seems like it's just spending more to rebrand those as "fork" stats. Not really a benefit to the taxpayer.

For VERA, it's accelerating what was coming in the next couple years. No clear case that's a good financial decisio0n for the taxpayers, but it is different from what was on schedule for the rest of the FY already.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Elon is working on people’s FOMO. He knows how to mess with people to get companies at the least amount of money and to do layoffs for the least amount of severance.

You are being messed with by Elon and his hackers.

Yes, it expired. Those people may or may not be paid. You may or may not be fired.

Start looking for other employment and keep your head down. What do you have to lose? A “dream vacation” which may never be paid out?

You are getting paid regardless and have a much better shot at getting your retirement benefits and unemployment if RIF’d.


He’s messing with you. Deep breaths and keep hitting your job sites.

Some still seem to be in denial about the need to job hunt.

White collar jobs aren’t hiring and Feds tend to run older, so ageism means you aren’t getting picked up for any professional roles. Sure a few former BigLaw can lateral back to firm, but your average Fed worker bee hitting 45? I guess they can get a job at Home Depot. A good option for some maybe teaching but that is a huge pay cut AND the hiring season is very regimented.

Reality of it all sucks, but Schedule F is coming so doing nothing is not really an option either.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.

That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.

I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.

Excellent! May the fork be with them.

I'm not cool with paying people who were retiring anyway for 8 months of no work. Seems like waste and abuse. Why is Elon wasting taxpayer money like this?

because none of this is about saving tax payer money. see the house budget proposal

+1.

It’s about revenge and going after the fictional “Deep State”.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why everyone is focusing on the Fork. There are bigger issues at hand. The people who took the deferred resignation offer did so willingly. The problem is with the people who are left and want to take the offer. What happens to them? What about reduction in force? Firings? Bypassing union agreements when it comes to telework and benefits? Making the work place a living hell? Monitoring our keystrokes? Work place safety? Availability of parking? People with kids who don't have alternative care arrangements... I mean the list of issues goes on and on.

+1 this is what I didn't understand all the opposition to the fork from unions, the press, general sentiment. It doesn't exist in a vacuum and we feds have to contend with the reality that there's a lot of other bad possibilities too.

I think it was a decent option for some.

Some may wish they had taken it.

I think there is still a lot of denial. Things like monitoring keystrokes is pretty standard nowadays.

[Anonymous]

Getting too bogged down in the whys can be a distraction. Having a plan for next steps and back up plans, whatever form those take, may be a better focus. Better not to end up on Schedule F completely flat footed.

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Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.

That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.

I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.

Excellent! May the fork be with them.

I'm not cool with paying people who were retiring anyway for 8 months of no work. Seems like waste and abuse. Why is Elon wasting taxpayer money like this?

because none of this is about saving tax payer money. see the house budget proposal

+1.

It’s about revenge and going after the fictional “Deep State”.

Judging by all the feds who spout hate to trump it sounds about right