Another day, another school shooting

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Anonymous wrote:We're so conditioned to shrug off gun violence because of the frequency of these things, and the MAGAs are somehow confused when no one gets too excited about a Republican kid randomly taking a shot at their leader.

The kid was a Democrat who donated to Act Blue.

Who cares? Point is that he is an American kid who had stupid level access to guns.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're so conditioned to shrug off gun violence because of the frequency of these things, and the MAGAs are somehow confused when no one gets too excited about a Republican kid randomly taking a shot at their leader.

The kid was a Democrat who donated to Act Blue.

Who cares? Point is that he is an American kid who had stupid level access to guns.

It's also made-up Republican garbage. Show us a source for that lying PP--there is none.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any gun owner or seller whose gun finds its way into a crime scene like this needs to be sued into oblivion. And we need to make judgments for this kind of negligent or reckless behavior nondischargeable in bankruptcy.

This

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.

The kid had threatened to shoot up his school in 2023 per the FBI

WTF is wrong with our country? This kid’s parents should have had all guns confiscated on a regular basis. This is really sick. The rights of this child and his parents were more important than every other kid at that school. And now four people are dead and thousands more have their lives altered forever.

Oh it is definitely the gun nuts’ freedom over the welfare of the rest of us.

Which is why we have to vote out politicians who choose to prioritize their interests.

They are in the minority, and not good citizens.

So you support a police state. Got it

DP. I support a state that protects its citizens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.

No. Only one question. Why don’t we outlaw guns like every other civilized country?

If you want to argue second amendment, every single gun owner should be registered and subject to some rules and laws regarding a well regulated militia.

You are exercising your freedom of expression. Did you register first? Was your comment pre-approved by the government first?!

It was the Heller decision in 2008 that went off road:

District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)
Author: Antonin Scalia

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

U.S. v. Miller (1939)
Author: James Clark McReynolds

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a “shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length” at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, a court cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.

Presser v. Illinois (1886)
Author: William Burnham Woods

In view of the fact that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force of the national government, as well as in view of its general powers, the states cannot prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security. However, unless restrained by their own constitutions, state legislatures may enact statutes to control and regulate all organizations, drilling, and parading of military bodies and associations, except those that are authorized by the militia laws of the United States.

Thank you for taking the time to consolidate this.

This is an excellent article by Stevens outlining the problems with Heller and more of the SCOTUS 2nd amendment history.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/05/john-paul-stevens-court-failed-gun-control/587272/

[Anonymous]

Why do private religious schools not have this problem?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.

No. Only one question. Why don’t we outlaw guns like every other civilized country?

If you want to argue second amendment, every single gun owner should be registered and subject to some rules and laws regarding a well regulated militia.

You are exercising your freedom of expression. Did you register first? Was your comment pre-approved by the government first?!

It was the Heller decision in 2008 that went off road:

District of Columbia v. Heller (2008)
Author: Antonin Scalia

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

U.S. v. Miller (1939)
Author: James Clark McReynolds

In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a “shotgun having a barrel of less than 18 inches in length” at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well-regulated militia, a court cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument.

Presser v. Illinois (1886)
Author: William Burnham Woods

In view of the fact that all citizens capable of bearing arms constitute the reserved military force of the national government, as well as in view of its general powers, the states cannot prohibit the people from keeping and bearing arms so as to deprive the United States of their rightful resource for maintaining the public security. However, unless restrained by their own constitutions, state legislatures may enact statutes to control and regulate all organizations, drilling, and parading of military bodies and associations, except those that are authorized by the militia laws of the United States.

As Thomas and Alito continue to remind us, there is no need to use stare decisis or judicial precedence in making decisions. Heller was wrongfully decided and needs to be overturned. The second amendment was not a blanket allowance for any member of the public to have every weapon ever created. Citizens have the right to bear arms, but the government can definitely limit which arms are available to them. Restricting types of weapons in no way infringes on a citizen's right to bear arms.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do private religious schools not have this problem?

Um....wrong. Private schools have shootings too. Here's one from 2023 at a Christian academy in Tennessee.
https://www.nytimes.com/article/nashville-school-shooting.html
In March, an armed assailant breached the campus of the Covenant School, a private academy in the Green Hills neighborhood of Nashville, and killed three students and three staff members.

The shooter was identified as Audrey E. Hale, ‌a 28-year-old former student of the school who lived in the area‌ and was being treated for an emotional disorder. The assailant was killed by the police minutes after they arrived at the scene.

The police have not yet determined a motive, but stressed that they believed that the school and its church had been targets, not any single person. In documents, the police said, there was evidence

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do private religious schools not have this problem?

I guess you don't know how to Google, how embarrassing

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/3-children-killed-in-shooting-at-nashville-private-school

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

How do you know there was no security? Still if you want to play this game let’s play it. Every time I get in a security line at the airport, government building or sport stadium I know no one line has been screened. Anyone around me can have a bomb, a hand gun and or an assault rifle. The security line becomes the easiest target.

The current strategy of “let’s do nothing- just wait patiently until all guns are banned” does not appear to be working out very well. Until such a thing occurs, increases in security procedures need to be the focus unless we want this to keep happening

The choice is not do nothing or wait until all guns are banned.

There are a multitude of sensible gun laws that could be passed from banning assault weapons, to red flag laws, to preventing teens from buying guns, to making guns traceable, a national registry…you are just blowing smoke.

First step is voting in legislators who want advocate against gun violence vs the people who tolerate it (except when they can politicize it)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:CNN is reporting that the shooter was known to law enforcement (unclear why) and the father recently told law enforcement that the kid didn’t have access to guns.

So many questions.

The kid had threatened to shoot up his school in 2023 per the FBI

WTF is wrong with our country? This kid’s parents should have had all guns confiscated on a regular basis. This is really sick. The rights of this child and his parents were more important than every other kid at that school. And now four people are dead and thousands more have their lives altered forever.

Oh it is definitely the gun nuts’ freedom over the welfare of the rest of us.

Which is why we have to vote out politicians who choose to prioritize their interests.

They are in the minority, and not good citizens.

So you support a police state. Got it

Scary "police states" like Europe for example? I'd infinitely prefer that over your right to cosplay action hero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So sad...such a ridiculous country where a 14 year old can get an assault rifle without much trouble.

Police Interviewed Suspect About Shooting Threats in 2023
The 14-year-old student accused of killing four people at his Georgia high school was questioned about online threats, which he denied having made, the F.B.I. said. In a news briefing, the authorities said the weapon used in the shooting was an “AR-platform-style weapon.”

The blame here is 100% on the FBI and local police. This kid flat out told them he would do this, and they did not arrest him.

They are liable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only thing to do is have sensible gun laws like England.

you want to get this this civil war started? I am game

If Republicans have their way, people who make online comments like this will be locked up as insane. Maybe that would be good?

[Anonymous]

Parents must be held accountable! Police investigated the kid last year for threatening to shoot up his school. Mom and dad should be in jail with him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents must be held accountable! Police investigated the kid last year for threatening to shoot up his school. Mom and dad should be in jail with him.

That actually happened last year. Parents held liable and I believe, sentenced.

I’m a teacher who will retiring the minute I can because of this.