sidwell college results--does everyone have top grades or are they getting in kids into strong schools imperfect grades?

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Scientists have discovered that the children of wealthy Ivy League grads have a higher chance of being admitted to top 30 schools.

And how exactly do Ivy League legacies have a higher chance of being admitted to top 30 schools where their parents didn't attend? Also, not that many "wealthy" families at Sidwell or any of the other DC privates.

I’ll tell you how - connections.

cOnNeCtIoNs

Exactly - Ivy League grads know board members, professors, deans, college presidents.

Sure, but I suspect NCS families have similar connections. Plus there are fewer students competing against each other at NCS for admissions to Ivies and T25 colleges. So why does the OP make a convincing argument that non-top 10% NCS seniors are having very different/negative admissions results, compared to their similarly situated peers at Sidwell?

the admissions landscape for girls is much harder.

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: Scientists have discovered that the children of wealthy Ivy League grads have a higher chance of being admitted to top 30 schools.

And how exactly do Ivy League legacies have a higher chance of being admitted to top 30 schools where their parents didn't attend? Also, not that many "wealthy" families at Sidwell or any of the other DC privates.

I’ll tell you how - connections.

cOnNeCtIoNs

Exactly - Ivy League grads know board members, professors, deans, college presidents.

Sure, but I suspect NCS families have similar connections. Plus there are fewer students competing against each other at NCS for admissions to Ivies and T25 colleges. So why does the OP make a convincing argument that non-top 10% NCS seniors are having very different/negative admissions results, compared to their similarly situated peers at Sidwell?

the admissions landscape for girls is much harder.

Well, 11 of the 18 Sidwell students going to Ivies this year are young women.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the NCS students who go overseas (Trinity Dublin, St. Andrews, Toronto, etc) go by choice or because they don't have strong US options?

This year there are about 10/71 NCS girls doing this.

Holton doesn't send anyone overseas and Sidwell/GDS rarely do. STA sends an occasional boy.

What is the story? Any senior parent know?

10?! Really? I'm an NCS parent and did not think it was that high. Where did you get that number? I only know of 3 or 4.
great schools. Who wouldn't want to hob knob with Royals? And as PP mentioned, a couple of these girls have parents who are not American, so a broader perspective.

No, very few students would turn down admissions to an Ivy or T20 college to attend these foreign schools, when they can simply study abroad…and then live abroad. Every time I see a St. Andrews/Trinity/Toronto/McGill post from a Big 3 student I think, “oh you didn’t get into any good U.S. colleges.”

yes and the required GPAs to these international colleges (although they are good schools) are suprisingly low if you look at Scoir/Naviance. They are definitely a place for Big3 schools to stash kids with 3.4-3.5s and kids with higher GPAs who didn't get better US options. (Plus, yes I'm sure they have some unique appeal to international families as well).

But when I see NCS sending 10% of the class to foreign schools and Holton sending 0% I think that the Holton girls definitely had better options.

I know a few NCS girls that always intended to study abroad. Cathedral schools have several international families - many parents that are not US born. Studying in a different country for some is a first option.

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Anonymous wrote:Do the NCS students who go overseas (Trinity Dublin, St. Andrews, Toronto, etc) go by choice or because they don't have strong US options?

This year there are about 10/71 NCS girls doing this.

Holton doesn't send anyone overseas and Sidwell/GDS rarely do. STA sends an occasional boy.

What is the story? Any senior parent know?

10?! Really? I'm an NCS parent and did not think it was that high. Where did you get that number? I only know of 3 or 4.
great schools. Who wouldn't want to hob knob with Royals? And as PP mentioned, a couple of these girls have parents who are not American, so a broader perspective.

No, very few students would turn down admissions to an Ivy or T20 college to attend these foreign schools, when they can simply study abroad…and then live abroad. Every time I see a St. Andrews/Trinity/Toronto/McGill post from a Big 3 student I think, “oh you didn’t get into any good U.S. colleges.”

yes and the required GPAs to these international colleges (although they are good schools) are suprisingly low if you look at Scoir/Naviance. They are definitely a place for Big3 schools to stash kids with 3.4-3.5s and kids with higher GPAs who didn't get better US options. (Plus, yes I'm sure they have some unique appeal to international families as well).

But when I see NCS sending 10% of the class to foreign schools and Holton sending 0% I think that the Holton girls definitely had better options.

We know a holton senior who is frustrated/surprised at her options and is likely going to do trinity or a gap year and apply again

I know a few NCS girls that always intended to study abroad. Cathedral schools have several international families - many parents that are not US born. Studying in a different country for some is a first option.

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There are plenty of reasons a student might not choose an ivy. A student who is offered a Jefferson scholarship at UVA or a Morehead-Cain fellowship at UNC would have a post that this group viewed as a less-than-stellar college result when, in reality, those scholarships are amazing and probably harder to get than admission into HYPS. I believe at least one NCS student received one of these fellowships this year.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the NCS students who go overseas (Trinity Dublin, St. Andrews, Toronto, etc) go by choice or because they don't have strong US options?

This year there are about 10/71 NCS girls doing this.

Holton doesn't send anyone overseas and Sidwell/GDS rarely do. STA sends an occasional boy.

What is the story? Any senior parent know?

10?! Really? I'm an NCS parent and did not think it was that high. Where did you get that number? I only know of 3 or 4.
great schools. Who wouldn't want to hob knob with Royals? And as PP mentioned, a couple of these girls have parents who are not American, so a broader perspective.

No, very few students would turn down admissions to an Ivy or T20 college to attend these foreign schools, when they can simply study abroad…and then live abroad. Every time I see a St. Andrews/Trinity/Toronto/McGill post from a Big 3 student I think, “oh you didn’t get into any good U.S. colleges.”

yes and the required GPAs to these international colleges (although they are good schools) are suprisingly low if you look at Scoir/Naviance. They are definitely a place for Big3 schools to stash kids with 3.4-3.5s and kids with higher GPAs who didn't get better US options. (Plus, yes I'm sure they have some unique appeal to international families as well).

But when I see NCS sending 10% of the class to foreign schools and Holton sending 0% I think that the Holton girls definitely had better options.

We know a holton senior who is frustrated/surprised at her options and is likely going to do trinity or a gap year and apply again

I know a few NCS girls that always intended to study abroad. Cathedral schools have several international families - many parents that are not US born. Studying in a different country for some is a first option.

For my kids studying abroad will be a top choice bc they are citizens elsewhere so school there will cost a fraction of even a state school in the states

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Anonymous wrote:grandparents who are the big donors

Grandparent donors are the welfare queens of college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the NCS students who go overseas (Trinity Dublin, St. Andrews, Toronto, etc) go by choice or because they don't have strong US options?

This year there are about 10/71 NCS girls doing this.

Holton doesn't send anyone overseas and Sidwell/GDS rarely do. STA sends an occasional boy.

What is the story? Any senior parent know?

10?! Really? I'm an NCS parent and did not think it was that high. Where did you get that number? I only know of 3 or 4.
great schools. Who wouldn't want to hob knob with Royals? And as PP mentioned, a couple of these girls have parents who are not American, so a broader perspective.

No, very few students would turn down admissions to an Ivy or T20 college to attend these foreign schools, when they can simply study abroad…and then live abroad. Every time I see a St. Andrews/Trinity/Toronto/McGill post from a Big 3 student I think, “oh you didn’t get into any good U.S. colleges.”

yes and the required GPAs to these international colleges (although they are good schools) are suprisingly low if you look at Scoir/Naviance. They are definitely a place for Big3 schools to stash kids with 3.4-3.5s and kids with higher GPAs who didn't get better US options. (Plus, yes I'm sure they have some unique appeal to international families as well).

But when I see NCS sending 10% of the class to foreign schools and Holton sending 0% I think that the Holton girls definitely had better options.

We know a holton senior who is frustrated/surprised at her options and is likely going to do trinity or a gap year and apply again

I know a few NCS girls that always intended to study abroad. Cathedral schools have several international families - many parents that are not US born. Studying in a different country for some is a first option.

Studying abroad is different than choosing to attend/graduate from a foreign university. My children will study abroad in high school and college.
I just can’t imagine turning down an Ivy or top college to earn a degree from a foreign university. However, I would consider Oxford or Cambridge, depending on the U.S. colleges in question.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of reasons a student might not choose an ivy. A student who is offered a Jefferson scholarship at UVA or a Morehead-Cain fellowship at UNC would have a post that this group viewed as a less-than-stellar college result when, in reality, those scholarships are amazing and probably harder to get than admission into HYPS. I believe at least one NCS student received one of these fellowships this year.

Listen, people make poor or unpopular decisions all the time. Here’s where I personally draw the line: If I feel compelled to tell everyone that I’m a Jefferson Scholar or a Morehead-Cain Fellow (and then explain what that means to the uninitiated), then I’m better off choosing HYPS. Those colleges require no explanation.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Do the NCS students who go overseas (Trinity Dublin, St. Andrews, Toronto, etc) go by choice or because they don't have strong US options?

This year there are about 10/71 NCS girls doing this.

Holton doesn't send anyone overseas and Sidwell/GDS rarely do. STA sends an occasional boy.

What is the story? Any senior parent know?

10?! Really? I'm an NCS parent and did not think it was that high. Where did you get that number? I only know of 3 or 4.
great schools. Who wouldn't want to hob knob with Royals? And as PP mentioned, a couple of these girls have parents who are not American, so a broader perspective.

No, very few students would turn down admissions to an Ivy or T20 college to attend these foreign schools, when they can simply study abroad…and then live abroad. Every time I see a St. Andrews/Trinity/Toronto/McGill post from a Big 3 student I think, “oh you didn’t get into any good U.S. colleges.”

yes and the required GPAs to these international colleges (although they are good schools) are suprisingly low if you look at Scoir/Naviance. They are definitely a place for Big3 schools to stash kids with 3.4-3.5s and kids with higher GPAs who didn't get better US options. (Plus, yes I'm sure they have some unique appeal to international families as well).

But when I see NCS sending 10% of the class to foreign schools and Holton sending 0% I think that the Holton girls definitely had better options.

We know a holton senior who is frustrated/surprised at her options and is likely going to do trinity or a gap year and apply again

I know a few NCS girls that always intended to study abroad. Cathedral schools have several international families - many parents that are not US born. Studying in a different country for some is a first option.

Studying abroad is different than choosing to attend/graduate from a foreign university. My children will study abroad in high school and college.
I just can’t imagine turning down an Ivy or top college to earn a degree from a foreign university. However, I would consider Oxford or Cambridge, depending on the U.S. colleges in question.

Those who intended to study abroad are not turning down Ivies. They're turning down other US options.

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of reasons a student might not choose an ivy. A student who is offered a Jefferson scholarship at UVA or a Morehead-Cain fellowship at UNC would have a post that this group viewed as a less-than-stellar college result when, in reality, those scholarships are amazing and probably harder to get than admission into HYPS. I believe at least one NCS student received one of these fellowships this year.

Listen, people make poor or unpopular decisions all the time. Here’s where I personally draw the line: If I feel compelled to tell everyone that I’m a Jefferson Scholar or a Morehead-Cain Fellow (and then explain what that means to the uninitiated), then I’m better off choosing HYPS. Those colleges require no explanation.

well except for the fact HYPS will cost you $350K more than UVA or UNC. :

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Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of reasons a student might not choose an ivy. A student who is offered a Jefferson scholarship at UVA or a Morehead-Cain fellowship at UNC would have a post that this group viewed as a less-than-stellar college result when, in reality, those scholarships are amazing and probably harder to get than admission into HYPS. I believe at least one NCS student received one of these fellowships this year.

Listen, people make poor or unpopular decisions all the time. Here’s where I personally draw the line: If I feel compelled to tell everyone that I’m a Jefferson Scholar or a Morehead-Cain Fellow (and then explain what that means to the uninitiated), then I’m better off choosing HYPS. Those colleges require no explanation.

well except for the fact HYPS will cost you $350K more than UVA or UNC. :

1. Not every family needs to take out loans/go into debt in order to pay for their children’s education; but

2. If you have to take out loans, after they’re paid off, which college do you prefer to be an alum of (and pass along legacy status)?

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Anonymous wrote:which college do you prefer to be an alum of (and pass along legacy status)?

Within each school, not all "legacy status" is created equal. I'm quite sure that the kids of my fellow HYP alums who donate tons of money are much more likely to benefit in needle-moving ways for college admissions than someone like me donating five figures total over the past two decades. Anyone taking out loans to pay for HYP usually won't be in the financial state to donate meaningful amounts of money later on.

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Anonymous wrote:grandparents who are the big donors

Grandparent donors are the welfare queens of college admissions.

What does that mean? Seriously.

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Anonymous wrote:grandparents who are the big donors

Grandparent donors are the welfare queens of college admissions.

What does that mean? Seriously.

Convenient scapegoat that's not nearly as prevalent as those relying on the trope claim.