Bathroom security announcement

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

MCPS doesn't control federal or state gun control laws, so it's a moot point since we're talking about the steps MCPS can and should take from a security and safety perspective to ensure its buildings are safe and where guns and drugs don't get in.

Stop deflecting and answer the question you were asked. Direct gun control law questions to federal and state legislators.

1. Advocate for common sense gun legislation at the federal and state level.
2. Advocate for harm-mitigation programs and funding at the federal and state level.

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

Guns in bathroom are rare in MCPS. But we know that drugs are ubiquitous.

The drug problem IN MCPS schools is well-documented and dangerous.

I want SROs back to help manage the drug problem.

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

Clearly YOU have a political agenda.

Reading this thread, there seems to be plenty of parents posting who do not have a political agenda, but who want their kids to be able to use the restrooms at school during the day.

That is not an unreasonable expectation.

I am happy to support whatever will help improve the situation. Bathrooms have become a ‘safe’ place for kids to use and distribute drugs. All kids of drugs. This needs to be fixed, they can deal/use drugs elsewhere, but get them out of our schools.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure who these parents are who don't think this is a big deal, but I don't think they have HS (or even MS) kids, or maybe they are at schools like Whitman and this isn't a problem? It's a major health problem for kids. My kid was just at a doctor's appointment and for a health condition, was told to drink 64 ounces of water a day -- she said no way she can do that, because she can't use the bathroom all day. The stalls are filled with kids using drugs (who don't get out to let someone in to pee), and the teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom during class, because they know that kids will then miss most of the class trying to find an open bathroom stall (or because they are smoking weed in the bathroom). It's totally ridiculous.
And there are also fights which is scary to most kids.

They are taking the doors off at my kids' school, but I really don't see how that will solve anything. They assured us no one could see into the bathroom from the halls, so I'm not sure that taking the doors off will discourage anyone from engaging in criminal conduct there.

This is our exact experience at RM.

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

They want to use the one gun violence incident at MCPS has justification for hiring SROs. This is well documented. NRA stance but most people recall how ineffective they were when present at places like parkland and uvalde. The point is to distract from any discussion of gun reform.

MoCo doesn't have to be a one trick pony. We can do both -- lobby for more gun control and bring back SROs.

But honestly, Sandy Hook shooting didn't move the needle on gun reform. I don't think MoCo pushing for gun reform is going to do a dam! thing. So, until we have better gun control, bring back the SROs to control the drug use/deals in schools.

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

They want to use the one gun violence incident at MCPS has justification for hiring SROs. This is well documented. NRA stance but most people recall how ineffective they were when present at places like parkland and uvalde. The point is to distract from any discussion of gun reform.

MoCo doesn't have to be a one trick pony. We can do both -- lobby for more gun control and bring back SROs.

But honestly, Sandy Hook shooting didn't move the needle on gun reform. I don't think MoCo pushing for gun reform is going to do a dam! thing. So, until we have better gun control, bring back the SROs to control the drug use/deals in schools.

Apparently bringing back the SROs will solve every problem! If only we had known, in long-ago 2019, what a flawless paradise MCPS was, before the SROs were removed.

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

No it’s not.

[Anonymous]

Female here. My high school in Maryland had most of the stall doors removed. Each bathroom only had 1 stall door on. The other stall doors were removed.

[Anonymous]

Collective punishment is ridiculous

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Anonymous wrote:Just signed a contract with our private for another year. $52k/year. It's a hefty sum, but it's worth it for us compared to MCPS. We were in MCPS before, but after watching BOE meetings online during Covid (to see when they would reopen), it was clear the BOE isn't good at more than rubber-stamping requests from MCPS, and MCPS is pretty inept at management at the top. The teachers we had in MCPS were great, but they're held down by the MCPS "system".

Funny thing is we're completely happy with MCPS. It may not be perfect but if you're involved in your kids, education they'll do fine.

You can be involved at home, but how do you solve things like the bathroom situation being reported here? Buy diapers? It's not like you manage the security guards or the principal.

When I was in school, I was reluctant to use public bathrooms because of stuff that often went on there. It wasn't all that hard to avoid.

I don't know when you were in school, but I assure you the bathroom culture is way worse than it was back then.

In the past 12 months:

1. Shooting in bathroom after a fight at Magruder
2. Countless overdoses in Kennedy bathrooms, most recently one on Jan. 24.
3. A robbery of three Gaithersburg HS schools in the bathroom at Richard Montgomery last month
4. Two girls passed out in the bathroom stalls at B-CC
5. Rampant drug dealing taking place in bathrooms at B-CC as highlighted in this student journalism piece: https://bcctattler.org/2065/news/trappergate-major-drug-bust-begins-with-b-cc-dealer/

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

None of that is new, except insofar as it involves guns and/or fentanyl. Both guns and fentanyl make things way worse.

MCPS is the 4th largest school district in the US. There are bound to be a few bad apples. They're also trying to make this into a bigger issue than it really is.

No it’s not.

It’s in the top 10 for sure. I saw that too

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

They want to use the one gun violence incident at MCPS has justification for hiring SROs. This is well documented. NRA stance but most people recall how ineffective they were when present at places like parkland and uvalde. The point is to distract from any discussion of gun reform.

NAILED IT!!!

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

Guns in bathroom are rare in MCPS. But we know that drugs are ubiquitous.

The drug problem IN MCPS schools is well-documented and dangerous.

I want SROs back to help manage the drug problem.

If the police are unable to enforce the laws, it's unlikely SROs will do any better. It's not like they were effective at Parkland or Uvalde.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure who these parents are who don't think this is a big deal, but I don't think they have HS (or even MS) kids, or maybe they are at schools like Whitman and this isn't a problem? It's a major health problem for kids. My kid was just at a doctor's appointment and for a health condition, was told to drink 64 ounces of water a day -- she said no way she can do that, because she can't use the bathroom all day. The stalls are filled with kids using drugs (who don't get out to let someone in to pee), and the teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom during class, because they know that kids will then miss most of the class trying to find an open bathroom stall (or because they are smoking weed in the bathroom). It's totally ridiculous.
And there are also fights which is scary to most kids.

They are taking the doors off at my kids' school, but I really don't see how that will solve anything. They assured us no one could see into the bathroom from the halls, so I'm not sure that taking the doors off will discourage anyone from engaging in criminal conduct there.

This is our exact experience at RM.

+1 at Sherwood

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

Guns in bathroom are rare in MCPS. But we know that drugs are ubiquitous.

The drug problem IN MCPS schools is well-documented and dangerous.

I want SROs back to help manage the drug problem.

If the police are unable to enforce the laws, it's unlikely SROs will do any better. It's not like they were effective at Parkland or Uvalde.

Agree this is a policing issue, that needs to be addressed. We need public hearings to establish why the police aren't enforcing our laws first.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

Guns in bathroom are rare in MCPS. But we know that drugs are ubiquitous.

The drug problem IN MCPS schools is well-documented and dangerous.

I want SROs back to help manage the drug problem.

If the police are unable to enforce the laws, it's unlikely SROs will do any better. It's not like they were effective at Parkland or Uvalde.

It's not like Parkland or Uvalde had issues with bathroom security, you know.. the topic of the thread.