Doctors who went to Caribbean medical schools or DOs

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a doctor and the biggest change I see isn’t in who becomes a doctor it’s in their attitude during training. When I trained you wouldn’t dream of not knowing everything about your patient even if woken up at 3am, and you wouldn’t dream of leaving as long as your senior was still there. Today’s residents think nothing of saying “I don’t know, I’m just covering that patient on call” or leaving a shift before their seniors do.

I think that this is unfortunately how these younger generations operate in every profession. Sigh.

Younger generations reject hazing at work, yes.

It’s not hazing. I trained in a very supportive program with a lot of cameraderie. It’s responsibility and a sense of vocation. Becoming a doctor isn’t like becoming a postal worker or a Wendy’s server. You’re not supposed to treat it that way.

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Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

Missing the point again I see. Who is saying that people enter medical school “by accident?” Literally no one. Yes they prepare for years, all of them. But, in the case of some, that is ALL they do and they have no identity or life experience outside of things that are done to build a med school application.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

being in the Peace Corp does not make you a better doc..nor does volunteering in 3rd world countries--I have seen people like this--when they have a regular patient they dont care because no one is watching and they cant brag about it....

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

being in the Peace Corp does not make you a better doc..nor does volunteering in 3rd world countries--I have seen people like this--when they have a regular patient they dont care because no one is watching and they cant brag about it....

I think Taylor Swift nails it "covert narcissism disguised as altruism" -so that is what i think of all the volunteering hours for college and med school....

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

being in the Peace Corp does not make you a better doc..nor does volunteering in 3rd world countries--I have seen people like this--when they have a regular patient they dont care because no one is watching and they cant brag about it....

And a lot of them never cared in the first place because they were doing it so they could put it on an application.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

being in the Peace Corp does not make you a better doc..nor does volunteering in 3rd world countries--I have seen people like this--when they have a regular patient they dont care because no one is watching and they cant brag about it....

That’s exactly right. And they immediately quit all of their volunteer gigs the minute they get an acceptance. So. much. caring.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.aamc.org/news-insights/medical-school-applicants-and-enrollments-hit-record-highs-underrepresented-minorities-lead-surge

Number of applications is up but acceptances have steadily increased. Does not say anything about the most important piece which is the number of *qualified* applicants. Increased apps does not necessarily mean increased competition if most of those people are not well qualified which is usually the case.

But, thousands of rejected people are “qualified.” There still are not enough seats, but that is largely Congress’ fault.

What makes you think that everyone who wants to be a doctor and is qualified should get a seat? This isn’t public kindergarten. Schools are allowed to select the best applicants. It’s better for everyone to keep quality high.

They are making worse by admitting a bunch robots who have never even had a real job or done anything that wasn’t related to getting them into med school.

You don’t know what you’re talking about. My medical school class had people who had backpacked the world, gotten masters in other subjects, done fellowships abroad, been in the Peace Corps, been in Teach for America, worked for NGOs, one had been a priest, several classical musicians, a former model, a mountain climber, an internationally ranked swimmer.

And who made up the other 95% of the class? And, a lot of the unique activities you mentioned are performed by rich kids who do them to set themselves apart.

So true.

As you can see by the data posted above, it’s not true. Unless you think a HHI of $75k a year is “rich kids.”

I think you are missing the point you are responding to a bit. The poster talked about how people in their class had climbed mountains, joined the Peace Corp, and worked abroad. Most poor and middle class people don’t have the time, money or connections to do some of these things that indeed might make someone stand out on a medical school application.

That was posted in response to her assertion (also false) that most people had never done anything except prepare for medical school. I’m not sure who she thinks goes to medical school by accident—it something you have to prepare for for years, no one just falls into it.

being in the Peace Corp does not make you a better doc..nor does volunteering in 3rd world countries--I have seen people like this--when they have a regular patient they dont care because no one is watching and they cant brag about it....

I think Taylor Swift nails it "covert narcissism disguised as altruism" -so that is what i think of all the volunteering hours for college and med school....

Pretty much.

[Anonymous]

If you know so much why don’t you become a doctor yourself and show them how it’s done? Oh that’s right, because you can’t.

All you can do is complain and criticize something you can’t personally accomplish.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you know so much why don’t you become a doctor yourself and show them how it’s done? Oh that’s right, because you can’t.

All you can do is complain and criticize something you can’t personally accomplish.

Excuse me, since when are people not allowed to criticize a system that has a direct effect on them a patients. The health care system in this country is broken and the recruitment and training of physicians is part of the problem. I hope that you yourself are not a doctor with your disdainful attitude. But you are probably just a white coat sniffer who for some reason is so up the a$$ of the profession and keeping the status quo.

[Anonymous]

So let’s get this straight here are some of the things posters have posted here:
-medical students are 95% wealthy —> demonstrated FALSE
-medical students have never done anything but prepare for medical school —> also demonstrably false
-well even if they did anything else it was for self serving nefarious reasons —> says you, and since when is it wrong to build your resume in your early adulthood
-people who did anything but prepare for medicine are obviously going to be somehow better doctors —> idiotic
-the MCAT doesn’t predict success in medical school, or the profession —> demonstrably false
-people who do well enough on the MCAT to get into medical school are the “wrong” people to admit —> makes no sense
-not to mention this stupidity about Caribbean schools being equivalent to or (laughing) better than US schools

There is so much ignorance and bigotry in one place here it’s breathtaking

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So let’s get this straight here are some of the things posters have posted here:
-medical students are 95% wealthy —> demonstrated FALSE
-medical students have never done anything but prepare for medical school —> also demonstrably false
-well even if they did anything else it was for self serving nefarious reasons —> says you, and since when is it wrong to build your resume in your early adulthood
-people who did anything but prepare for medicine are obviously going to be somehow better doctors —> idiotic
-the MCAT doesn’t predict success in medical school, or the profession —> demonstrably false
-people who do well enough on the MCAT to get into medical school are the “wrong” people to admit —> makes no sense
-not to mention this stupidity about Caribbean schools being equivalent to or (laughing) better than US schools

There is so much ignorance and bigotry in one place here it’s breathtaking

Bigotry? What bigotry, drama queen? You seem to have some weird blinders on about the current state of med school
admissions. Wait no, you are right. Everything is just perfect and all MDs are perfect. You can tell from looking at our amazing healthcare system! Wow!

[Anonymous]

The breakdown of our amazing healthcare system is not because of who they are admitting to medical school it’s how the corporations and insurance companies are breaking the system. Try learning instead of just hating on people and systems you clearly do not understand.

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Anonymous wrote:The breakdown of our amazing healthcare system is not because of who they are admitting to medical school it’s how the corporations and insurance companies are breaking the system. Try learning instead of just hating on people and systems you clearly do not understand.

Yeah, doctors who deliver the healthcare are absolutely perfect and nothing is their fault.