Keenan Anderson - black teacher killed by LAPD

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

Lethal force is a gun a taser it not lethal force when he died 4+ hours later with cocaine and weed in his system. What personal responsibility do you think the deceased had in this? Any? He was high on drugs, committed felony DUI hit and run, disobeyed police, ran into traffic nearly causing more accidents. Did he do anything wrong here? Before saying the police are wrong, what is/was his part here? Do you see anything?

10000% and the sjw keep ignoring this fact. Color of skin doesn't matter here. What was his part in all this? Sjw silent about that here. So maybe we should all stop feeding the trolls and let this thread die.

Good idea. Especially since the consensus among the sensible here is that the officers acted reasonably.

You are delusional -
Most people are horrified by the excessive use of force against a mentally unwell man ..,

Most people on this thread think the cops were justified. Not sure which thread you are reading.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know a dc cop and he said nobody enjoys being a cop anymore in his department, because of the hate they get in a regular basis. This was extremely unfortunate that he died, but it was completely preventable, not by the cops but by the young man. He doesn’t get tased if he doesn’t put himself in this position. I believe that there are times to yell, ‘bad cop’ but this isn’t it. A white man in the exact same scenario would have been tased as well. Nobody drew their gun, so they weren’t trying to kill him

I don’t hate cops. We need them. I just want them better and longer trained for everyone’s sakes - they should have called in the LAPD mental health unit and had fewer men on top of him tasering repeatedly … with better training they would likely have better judgement

We need cops. We need to invest more in their training and not give lip service to how important they are.

[Anonymous]

Resisting arrest leads to problems. People of any skin color should not resist arrest.

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Anonymous wrote:The deceased did everything wrong that one could do in this situation plus he had coke & pot in his system and he committed a felony hit& run.

Doesn't appear that the police did anything wrong here.

You may think you are helping the police HH defending unjustified use of lethal force but you are contributing to deep distrust of the police by POC. Police need more training to be able to judge when lethal force is justified and build community support and relations.

Lethal force is a gun a taser it not lethal force when he died 4+ hours later with cocaine and weed in his system. What personal responsibility do you think the deceased had in this? Any? He was high on drugs, committed felony DUI hit and run, disobeyed police, ran into traffic nearly causing more accidents. Did he do anything wrong here? Before saying the police are wrong, what is/was his part here? Do you see anything?

10000% and the sjw keep ignoring this fact. Color of skin doesn't matter here. What was his part in all this? Sjw silent about that here. So maybe we should all stop feeding the trolls and let this thread die.

Good idea. Especially since the consensus among the sensible here is that the officers acted reasonably.

You are delusional -
Most people are horrified by the excessive use of force against a mentally unwell man ..,

Most people on this thread think the cops were justified. Not sure which thread you are reading.

There were a bunch of people agreeing with OP and being shot down as sock puppets.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

When giving the above advice, look in the mirror...

Looking square at it - unlike the unhinged defender of excessive police force …

Maybe you should go join the huge protest going on in downtown LA right now.

Oops. There isn’t one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

When giving the above advice, look in the mirror...

Looking square at it - unlike the unhinged defender of excessive police force …

Maybe you should go join the huge protest going on in downtown LA right now.

Oops. There isn’t one.

They are dealing with other crises right now - evacuations following flooding, intense rain - 16 inches of rain in one day in some parts of southern cal. Floods and mudslides shit down roads across LA.

[Anonymous]

Moral of this story for young black men:

-don't do enough cocaine that you're high as a kite and paranoid
-don't drive while high
-don't resist police arrest

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

When giving the above advice, look in the mirror...

Looking square at it - unlike the unhinged defender of excessive police force …

Maybe you should go join the huge protest going on in downtown LA right now.

Oops. There isn’t one.

They are dealing with other crises right now - evacuations following flooding, intense rain - 16 inches of rain in one day in some parts of southern cal. Floods and mudslides shit down roads across LA.

No dear. People just don’t agree with you that this was some crazy racist murder of a teacher by a cop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

When giving the above advice, look in the mirror...

Looking square at it - unlike the unhinged defender of excessive police force …

Maybe you should go join the huge protest going on in downtown LA right now.

Oops. There isn’t one.

They are dealing with other crises right now - evacuations following flooding, intense rain - 16 inches of rain in one day in some parts of southern cal. Floods and mudslides shit down roads across LA.

No dear. People just don’t agree with you that this was some crazy racist murder of a teacher by a cop.

Honey, the stats speak for themselves … sorry you have trouble grasping nuance in unconscious ways racism plays out in real lives.

Many many people do agree that his death was unnecessary and six armed police officers on top of an unarmed mentally unwell man was excessive and cruel. If they were trained better they would have got the LAPD mental health unit involved and had fewer men on top of him tasering away even after he stopped resisting arrest and was pleading for his life.

He is someone’s beloved family member and friend. He did not deserve to die like this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

No, and he should have made better decisions...as in thinking about how HIS behavior could harm others. I'm more concerned for true victims.

Lord knows how many 100% blameless humans there are out there. You will give THEM your concern when you find them though.

Let's hear YOUR concern for those who are true victims.

You're barking up the wrong tree here, but you'd have no way of knowing even if it were the right tree because this is an anonymous forum. If mouthing off by asking this makes you feel better, I guess that's good, but it's not a real question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Moral of this story for young black men:

-don't do enough cocaine that you're high as a kite and paranoid
-don't drive while high
-don't resist police arrest

This is extremely reasonable. But someone will think it’s racist.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous[b wrote:]Moral of this story for young black men:[/b]

-don't do enough cocaine that you're high as a kite and paranoid
-don't drive while high
-don't resist police arrest

This is extremely reasonable. But someone will think it’s racist.

It is...as (per you) this doesn't apply to young white men.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

When giving the above advice, look in the mirror...

Looking square at it - unlike the unhinged defender of excessive police force …

Maybe you should go join the huge protest going on in downtown LA right now.

Oops. There isn’t one.

They are dealing with other crises right now - evacuations following flooding, intense rain - 16 inches of rain in one day in some parts of southern cal. Floods and mudslides shit down roads across LA.

No dear. People just don’t agree with you that this was some crazy racist murder of a teacher by a cop.

Honey, the stats speak for themselves … sorry you have trouble grasping nuance in unconscious ways racism plays out in real lives.

Many many people do agree that his death was unnecessary and six armed police officers on top of an unarmed mentally unwell man was excessive and cruel. If they were trained better they would have got the LAPD mental health unit involved and had fewer men on top of him tasering away even after he stopped resisting arrest and was pleading for his life.

He is someone’s beloved family member and friend. He did not deserve to die like this.

No, he didn't. I'm sorry he made the choices he did to get high on cocaine, drive in a way that endangered his life and those of others, got involved in a hit and run, and resisted arrest .

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

He was resisting. It took multiple officers to hold him down. The officer with the taser warned him at least four times that he was going to taser him if he didn't stop resisting. Clearly he was terrified and irrational, not malevolent, but what would have been a better course of action? Let him just run off? Let him keep fighting back? If he had stopped resisting he wouldn't have been tased. If he had sat down on the sidewalk when asked and not run out into the street there would not have been a physical struggle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm sad by some of the posters here where in 2023 there is no personal responsibility or accountability for any personal actions and this is now acceptable to most of society. This man, a teacher who teaches kids, was high on cocaine, weed, who knows what else, causing car accidents in the middle of the road yet he will somehow be named a hero.

Does he deserve to die for that, you psychopath?

NP

I say frequently that personal responsibility has gone the way of the dodo.
He may not have DESERVED to die, but his death is not shocking considering his actions.

If some idiot runs out in front of a speeding train because he thinks he can beat it, and he dies, did he deserve to die? Nope. But, his death is not at all shocking and there is plenty he could have done to prevent it.

False equivalence

Police are trained to respond to such threats or lack thereof.

Speeding trains are not.

The level of force was way disproportionate to the threat he posed six armed officers.

I’m sure they are trained to tase people who are a danger to themselves or others. Which they did.

Yeah right - six of them on one terrified unarmed man in the ground pleading for his life and not resisting arrest.

Don’t let evidence or reality get in the way of your dogma …

He was resisting. It took multiple officers to hold him down. The officer with the taser warned him at least four times that he was going to taser him if he didn't stop resisting. Clearly he was terrified and irrational, not malevolent, but what would have been a better course of action? Let him just run off? Let him keep fighting back? If he had stopped resisting he wouldn't have been tased. If he had sat down on the sidewalk when asked and not run out into the street there would not have been a physical struggle.

A problem with the "stop resisting" position...is the position. In most video I've seen, the "resisting" individual is being ordered to do something at the same time some portion of their body is being forced into an unnatural position. You'd move (resist) too, if your arm/hand/head was forcibly held at an unnatural and painful angle.