Late to the party - did lobbyists take down the breastfeeding post?

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I always questioned why we supposedly could not give cow's milk until 12 months but could give all other dairy (yogurt, cheese) beginning at 6 months. Then the formula shortage. Then WADDYA KNOW, the american academy of pediatricians suddenly says, 'It's ok to give cow milk at 6 months if you can't find formula, but JUST FOR NOW!' I am very anti-breastfeeding bullies but it did make me wonder about the clout of the formula lobby.

Omg don't switch to cow's milk at 6 months and don't insinuate that that's ok. This post by itself puts babies at risk, you sicko. The AAP said that in an emergency you can give cow's milk for no longer than a week. They explained why here:
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/20417/AAP-experts-offer-advice-on-how-pediatricians-can?autologincheck=redirected

So less iron is the only concern? Even less convincing. So cow's milk itself is not a health threat.

NP. Are you familiar with hyponatremic seizures and why this might be a concern for some cow's milk products, but not others? Late hypocalcemic tetany of the neonate? The digestibility of high casein curd? Hypotaurinemia and hypocystinemia?

omg who cares not anyone reading this thread

So, "no."

Fair enough. I can see why you are under the impression you understand what's going on.

I know exactly what is going on, which is that no one is on page 4 of this thread--where your soapbox speech about milk began--to get information about infant feeding. Thus, they care EVEN LESS about any of the bolded.

DP wtf is your problem?

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Anonymous wrote:I will say I always questioned why we supposedly could not give cow's milk until 12 months but could give all other dairy (yogurt, cheese) beginning at 6 months. Then the formula shortage. Then WADDYA KNOW, the american academy of pediatricians suddenly says, 'It's ok to give cow milk at 6 months if you can't find formula, but JUST FOR NOW!' I am very anti-breastfeeding bullies but it did make me wonder about the clout of the formula lobby.

Omg don't switch to cow's milk at 6 months and don't insinuate that that's ok. This post by itself puts babies at risk, you sicko. The AAP said that in an emergency you can give cow's milk for no longer than a week. They explained why here:
https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/20417/AAP-experts-offer-advice-on-how-pediatricians-can?autologincheck=redirected

So less iron is the only concern? Even less convincing. So cow's milk itself is not a health threat.

NP. Are you familiar with hyponatremic seizures and why this might be a concern for some cow's milk products, but not others? Late hypocalcemic tetany of the neonate? The digestibility of high casein curd? Hypotaurinemia and hypocystinemia?

omg who cares not anyone reading this thread

So, "no."

Fair enough. I can see why you are under the impression you understand what's going on.

I know exactly what is going on, which is that no one is on page 4 of this thread--where your soapbox speech about milk began--to get information about infant feeding. Thus, they care EVEN LESS about any of the bolded.

Lord. Do you not know what "NP" means? Or do you just react without reading?

I was a "new poster." That was my first post, back on page 9. Not page 4.

There are many reasons why cow's milk can have bad outcomes for infants, and why dairy products without as much (not salt-balanced) water are less likely to cause problems at a given age. OF COURSE they are technical and boring. OF COURSE that is why a news release about how pediatricians can counsel distraught parents is not going into the details of sodium and phosphate metabolism.

You are making your own point by still not understanding what is going on.

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I feel like this is primarily an online debate, at least among UMC. No UMC person with internet access should allow themselves to be terrorized by pro-BF or pro-formula advocates. They should take ownership for their decisions.

Every single UMC woman I know has given birth with the goal of BFing, at least through maternity leave. Many started supplementing or switched over to formula completely if their supply didn’t allow EBF.

I myself supplemented in the early days since my milk was delayed, at the suggestion of my MD and blessing of my lactation consultant. Went back to EBF after my supply strengthened. Can’t imagine being so gullible that I would blindly follow an LC while ignoring signs of dehydration!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is primarily an online debate, at least among UMC. No UMC person with internet access should allow themselves to be terrorized by pro-BF or pro-formula advocates. They should take ownership for their decisions.

Every single UMC woman I know has given birth with the goal of BFing, at least through maternity leave. Many started supplementing or switched over to formula completely if their supply didn’t allow EBF.

I myself supplemented in the early days since my milk was delayed, at the suggestion of my MD and blessing of my lactation consultant. Went back to EBF after my supply strengthened. Can’t imagine being so gullible that I would blindly follow an LC while ignoring signs of dehydration!

No, it's not an online debate.

Every single UMC woman I know breastfed in order to follow medical advice. Many found the experience to be extremely stressful but they were doing what their child's pediatrician and staff told them to do. Passive aggressively bashing women for following medical advice is absurd and abusive.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is primarily an online debate, at least among UMC. No UMC person with internet access should allow themselves to be terrorized by pro-BF or pro-formula advocates. They should take ownership for their decisions.

Every single UMC woman I know has given birth with the goal of BFing, at least through maternity leave. Many started supplementing or switched over to formula completely if their supply didn’t allow EBF.

I myself supplemented in the early days since my milk was delayed, at the suggestion of my MD and blessing of my lactation consultant. Went back to EBF after my supply strengthened. Can’t imagine being so gullible that I would blindly follow an LC while ignoring signs of dehydration!

No, it's not an online debate.

Every single UMC woman I know breastfed in order to follow medical advice. Many found the experience to be extremely stressful but they were doing what their child's pediatrician and staff told them to do. Passive aggressively bashing women for following medical advice is absurd and abusive.

In this day and age, no one who is educated should follow their doctor’s instructions blindly. They should use their critical thinking skills.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I feel like this is primarily an online debate, at least among UMC. No UMC person with internet access should allow themselves to be terrorized by pro-BF or pro-formula advocates. They should take ownership for their decisions.

Every single UMC woman I know has given birth with the goal of BFing, at least through maternity leave. Many started supplementing or switched over to formula completely if their supply didn’t allow EBF.

I myself supplemented in the early days since my milk was delayed, at the suggestion of my MD and blessing of my lactation consultant. Went back to EBF after my supply strengthened. Can’t imagine being so gullible that I would blindly follow an LC while ignoring signs of dehydration!

No, it's not an online debate.

Every single UMC woman I know breastfed in order to follow medical advice. Many found the experience to be extremely stressful but they were doing what their child's pediatrician and staff told them to do. Passive aggressively bashing women for following medical advice is absurd and abusive.

In this day and age, no one who is educated should follow their doctor’s instructions blindly. They should use their critical thinking skills.

Straight out of the anti vaxxers playbook