Gaza War, Part 3

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is attacking America's attempt to construct a pier for food aid with mortar fire.

Link?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/25/gaza-floating-pier/

I mean, seriously. And isn't Hamas continuing to fire (hundreds of) rockets daily into Israel? How come nobody ever mentions/talks about that?

Because its inconvenient. Family member lives there and it is constant. They have money for those but not for their people!

Why is peace never an option? Hamas has said they will unarm if Israel accepts 1967 borders.

Just like Israel views the situation as fighting for their lives so does Hamas. The only way for Israel to live in peace is to actually make peace. Sure Arafat should have accepted the deal offered back then. But he didn’t. But now Palestinians are willing to be reasonable. So should Israel.

Twenty years ago, under Ariel Sharon, Israel retreated to defensible borders. They had their soldiers forcibly remove Israelis from their homes and withdrew from Gaza. Yet still more attacks. A better solution is to dissolve Gaza and the West Bank and place them under permanent control of Egypt and Jordan, as they were before 1967.

12,000 new homes in the West Bank this year. Israel did not retreat. They did the opposite.

What is wrong with building new homes in their country? We are currently in a housing crisis in the United States, we would do well to look at Israel’s successes in mass building to help address our concerns.

Well, let's start with the fact that the entire world, including the United States, doesn't recognize Israell's annexation of that land that you call "their country". The West Bank is not part of "their country" according to every single country in the world. But uh, tell us more about these Israeli building successes. We've see plenty of their ability to destroy buildings with U.S. weapons, so it will be refreshing to heard about them building something for once.

And 10/7 showed that the whole world was wrong to support Hamas in their terroristic goals. This should not be controversial, except Biden and his neo Nazi democrat party have decided to abandon our Israeli Allie’s.

It’s called redevelopment, tear down a violent, dangerous neighborhood inhabited by terrorists, and rebuild with nice homes. And Israel will need new housing built to accommodate the number of American Jewish refugees that will be forced to emigrate if Joe Biden and his Neo-Nazi democrat government is re-elected in 2024 and gets the opportunity to put in place their plans for Jewish Genocide.

I think this is our favorite “god literally personally gave us this land” friend.

Perhaps it’s Daniella Weiss. Could anyone else be so narcissistically racist?

Seems unlikely, some of these people purporting to be chosen unless the choices were being made by an entity with a real sense of humor.

[Anonymous]

Four bureaus in the state department have notified Blinken that Israel may be violating international humanitarian law and that Israeli assurances that they are compliant were "neither credible nor reliable."

Blinken has to report to Congress by May 8 as to whether Israel's assurances that they are not violating US or international law is credible.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/some-us-officials-say-internal-memo-israel-may-be-violating-international-law-2024-04-27/

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Anonymous wrote:Four bureaus in the state department have notified Blinken that Israel may be violating international humanitarian law and that Israeli assurances that they are compliant were "neither credible nor reliable."

Blinken has to report to Congress by May 8 as to whether Israel's assurances that they are not violating US or international law is credible.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/some-us-officials-say-internal-memo-israel-may-be-violating-international-law-2024-04-27/

America is disillusioned by their friend Israel as Arabs are with their Palestinian friend . We need to offer no alliances to either side and let them be forced to ally with each other instead. That’s really the answer here.

Financially supporting either side won’t encourage either to make peace

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is attacking America's attempt to construct a pier for food aid with mortar fire.

Link?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/25/gaza-floating-pier/

I mean, seriously. And isn't Hamas continuing to fire (hundreds of) rockets daily into Israel? How come nobody ever mentions/talks about that?

Because its inconvenient. Family member lives there and it is constant. They have money for those but not for their people!

Why is peace never an option? Hamas has said they will unarm if Israel accepts 1967 borders.

Just like Israel views the situation as fighting for their lives so does Hamas. The only way for Israel to live in peace is to actually make peace. Sure Arafat should have accepted the deal offered back then. But he didn’t. But now Palestinians are willing to be reasonable. So should Israel.

Hamas never said they’d unarm. They said they’d stop throwing rockets and they’d accept Israel with 1967 borders (the same borders as today) but without the settlements and the general occupation. This isn’t unreasonable given the Us says the same thing. The occupation allows Israelis to arrest Palestinians and kill them at random or detain children. That was the reasoning behind Hamas taking hostages so I don’t see how the occupation is making Israel any safer. If the fear is Palestinians can’t live civilly , why do Israelis brag about the 20% Arab population ? What makes them any averse to homegrown terrorism than their cousin in Ramallah or Gaza?

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I’d like to compare who lives civilly among the Jewish settlers in West Bank and the Israeli “Arabs”, some of whom apparently serve in the IDF. Of course Israel sees toddlers and grandmas in Gaza as more of a threat than Arab men in their army who maybe could be double agents given Hamas extensive funds . Israel under Netanyahu has not been very smart .

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is attacking America's attempt to construct a pier for food aid with mortar fire.

Link?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/04/25/gaza-floating-pier/

I mean, seriously. And isn't Hamas continuing to fire (hundreds of) rockets daily into Israel? How come nobody ever mentions/talks about that?

Because its inconvenient. Family member lives there and it is constant. They have money for those but not for their people!

Why is peace never an option? Hamas has said they will unarm if Israel accepts 1967 borders.

Just like Israel views the situation as fighting for their lives so does Hamas. The only way for Israel to live in peace is to actually make peace. Sure Arafat should have accepted the deal offered back then. But he didn’t. But now Palestinians are willing to be reasonable. So should Israel.

Twenty years ago, under Ariel Sharon, Israel retreated to defensible borders. They had their soldiers forcibly remove Israelis from their homes and withdrew from Gaza. Yet still more attacks. A better solution is to dissolve Gaza and the West Bank and place them under permanent control of Egypt and Jordan, as they were before 1967.

12,000 new homes in the West Bank this year. Israel did not retreat. They did the opposite.

What is wrong with building new homes in their country? We are currently in a housing crisis in the United States, we would do well to look at Israel’s successes in mass building to help address our concerns.

You want us to build houses in Mexico and then claim that land as our own? That's certainly an idea. Not a good idea but an idea nonetheless.

Not the same. Mexico is a nation-state.

That’s like saying a girl is okay to rape if she’s unmarried.

Speaking of rape, you and your friends seem to be forgetting something:

[Anonymous]

ICC anticipated to issue arrest warrants for Israeli senior government officials:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/world/middleeast/icc-arrest-warrants-israel-hamas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

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Anonymous wrote:ICC anticipated to issue arrest warrants for Israeli senior government officials:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/world/middleeast/icc-arrest-warrants-israel-hamas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

And Hamas apparently but you left that out.

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Anonymous wrote:ICC anticipated to issue arrest warrants for Israeli senior government officials:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/28/world/middleeast/icc-arrest-warrants-israel-hamas.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare&sgrp=c-cb

And Hamas apparently but you left that out.

Everyone opposed to Zionism would be more than overjoyed to throw Hamas leaders into the same dungeon with Israeli leaders!

We’re just so accustomed to Israel and its leadership escaping accountability, and so accustomed to Palestinians being the only party in this conflict to face actual consequences, that I’m sure you can understand why the PP’s post failed to mention the part that is already assumed.

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6XIat3Rn6c/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Best explanation of the situation I’ve seen.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6XIat3Rn6c/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Best explanation of the situation I’ve seen.

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Uhh..no. Zionists are very good at propaganda, that’s my biggest takeaway from this conflict. The way they create a narrative and then push it relentlessly is astounding.

[Anonymous]

I'm a slut for free books and therefore obsessively check out the dozen Little Free Libraries in our neighborhood. Since last week several of them now have history of Israel books.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why, after Oct 7, Israel’s leaders didn’t acknowledge that it’s just too dangerous for them to be there. Why not just tell your citizens, “look this is too dangerous. We were just slaughtered, tortured, taken hostage. Instead of spending millions on a war, let’s relocate you all around the world and give this land to the Arabs.”

And similarly, why don’t Palestinians just leave that place. They have so much support and people are just chomping at the bit to give them money. Their lives over there sound awful. Why not fund them to relocate to other Arab countries (or wherever they want to go).

I own land and like my hometown. But if I was at real risk of being murdered, I’d leave in a heartbeat and settle pretty much anywhere in the world where it’d be safe for me. Why don’t the leaders of Israel and Palestine do this?

Yeah, because that worked so well for Jews in Europe…ever heard of a place called Auschwitz? Or a governing plan referred to as the Final Solution? Your ignorance of world history is appalling.

Of course I know about Auschwitz and the Final Solution. I’m not talking about sending Israelis / Palestinians to a death chamber. To liken it to historical events, I’m wondering why the leaders in Israel and Palestine aren’t coordinating ways for their people to emigrate to safe host countries, like the hundreds of thousands of Jews who emigrated from Germany and German occupied countries in the 1930s and early 1940s and subsequently survived WWII.

You are advocating the forced removal of the Jewish people from Israel. That would, inarguably, be considered to be Genocide. The forced removal of a people from their home is genocide, and you are absolutely sick for even suggesting that the Genocide of the Jewish Israelis would be an appropriate.

Zionists forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes during the Nakba and continue to do the same in the West Bank. By your own definition of the term, you must acknowledge Zionists are (and have) committed genocide, and anyone who suggests this genocide is appropriate is absolutely sick.

Some Palestinians were evicted from homes they did not own. They did not hold title to the homes or the land, and were legally evicted. And then, instead of actually advocating for any sort of justice from the UN (because, again, they largely did not actually own the land they claimed they did), they have spent the last 40 years trying to conduct a genocide against Jewish people in Israel, a genocide that has now spread all over the world, including our very own Universities and streets here in the United States.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why, after Oct 7, Israel’s leaders didn’t acknowledge that it’s just too dangerous for them to be there. Why not just tell your citizens, “look this is too dangerous. We were just slaughtered, tortured, taken hostage. Instead of spending millions on a war, let’s relocate you all around the world and give this land to the Arabs.”

And similarly, why don’t Palestinians just leave that place. They have so much support and people are just chomping at the bit to give them money. Their lives over there sound awful. Why not fund them to relocate to other Arab countries (or wherever they want to go).

I own land and like my hometown. But if I was at real risk of being murdered, I’d leave in a heartbeat and settle pretty much anywhere in the world where it’d be safe for me. Why don’t the leaders of Israel and Palestine do this?

Yeah, because that worked so well for Jews in Europe…ever heard of a place called Auschwitz? Or a governing plan referred to as the Final Solution? Your ignorance of world history is appalling.

Of course I know about Auschwitz and the Final Solution. I’m not talking about sending Israelis / Palestinians to a death chamber. To liken it to historical events, I’m wondering why the leaders in Israel and Palestine aren’t coordinating ways for their people to emigrate to safe host countries, like the hundreds of thousands of Jews who emigrated from Germany and German occupied countries in the 1930s and early 1940s and subsequently survived WWII.

You are advocating the forced removal of the Jewish people from Israel. That would, inarguably, be considered to be Genocide. The forced removal of a people from their home is genocide, and you are absolutely sick for even suggesting that the Genocide of the Jewish Israelis would be an appropriate.

Zionists forcibly removed Palestinians from their homes during the Nakba and continue to do the same in the West Bank. By your own definition of the term, you must acknowledge Zionists are (and have) committed genocide, and anyone who suggests this genocide is appropriate is absolutely sick.

Some Palestinians were evicted from homes they did not own. They did not hold title to the homes or the land, and were legally evicted. And then, instead of actually advocating for any sort of justice from the UN (because, again, they largely did not actually own the land they claimed they did), they have spent the last 40 years trying to conduct a genocide against Jewish people in Israel, a genocide that has now spread all over the world, including our very own Universities and streets here in the United States.

And, Israelis had papers and titles for these homes? How stupid do you think the rest of the world is?

Let’s talk about justice from the UN, since 1948 Zionists have manipulated American politicians to veto any resolution presented in the U.N, with regards to the Palestinians.

These are Truman’s exact words regarding the U.N vote:

"The facts were that not only were there pressure movements around the United Nations unlike anything that had been seen there before, but that the White House, too, was subjected to a constant barrage. I do not think I ever had as much pressure and propaganda aimed at the White House as I had in this instance. The persistence of a few of the extreme Zionist leaders—actuated by political motives and engaging in political threats—disturbed and annoyed me."

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Truman supported the founding of Israel. But he was also held antisemitic views.

“Former President Harry Truman accepted his wife’s rule to never permit Jews in their home.”

“According to Beschloss, when talk show host David Susskind asked the ex-president, in 1953, why he had never been invited to the Truman home despite their many interviews, Truman replied: “You’re a Jew, David, and no Jew has ever been in the house. Bess runs it, and there’s never been a Jew inside the house in her or her mother’s lifetime.” Beschloss also reports that in a private letter to his wife in 1957, Truman referred to New York City as “the U.S. capital of Israel.”