Hero’s 2033 Green

[peaches85a]

Hero’s 2033 Green. Tell me about this team. How is the coaching? Is there decent playing time for the girls? How are coaches kids playing time relative to others?

[Anonymous]

I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

This is definitely not the approach of HG and M&D and Skywalkers. The latter two put nothing into their younger teams. They thrive later despite having poo poo younger teams. The former (HG) focuses on development over winning at th youngest ages, even when they know they are in conflict. What you describe is the goal of clubs like MDU and Coppermine and HoCo, because it’s the only way they can get girls later. Top clubs don’t think of it that way at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

This is definitely not the approach of HG and M&D and Skywalkers. The latter two put nothing into their younger teams. They thrive later despite having poo poo younger teams. The former (HG) focuses on development over winning at th youngest ages, even when they know they are in conflict. What you describe is the goal of clubs like MDU and Coppermine and HoCo, because it’s the only way they can get girls later. Top clubs don’t think of it that way at all.

So many idiotic takes here, but this one is special.

Young M&D teams:
2032s- #2
2031s- #1
2030s- #2
2035s- no eligible for ranking, but should at least make it to semis, started 2-0.

For the HS aged teams:
2029s have been ranked in top 5 every single year.
2028s have never been ranked lower than 7th, were top 5 up through middle school.
2027s have never been ranked lower than #3.

The 2033s and 2034s are the only “struggling” teams, and the 33s are top 20. M&D is the best club in the area, it puts a ton of effort in with the lower ages, and then they finish strong in HS.

And no, not an M&D parent, but I can appreciate a well run organization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

This is definitely not the approach of HG and M&D and Skywalkers. The latter two put nothing into their younger teams. They thrive later despite having poo poo younger teams. The former (HG) focuses on development over winning at th youngest ages, even when they know they are in conflict. What you describe is the goal of clubs like MDU and Coppermine and HoCo, because it’s the only way they can get girls later. Top clubs don’t think of it that way at all.

So many idiotic takes here, but this one is special.

Young M&D teams:
2032s- #2
2031s- #1
2030s- #2
2035s- no eligible for ranking, but should at least make it to semis, started 2-0.

For the HS aged teams:
2029s have been ranked in top 5 every single year.
2028s have never been ranked lower than 7th, were top 5 up through middle school.
2027s have never been ranked lower than #3.

The 2033s and 2034s are the only “struggling” teams, and the 33s are top 20. M&D is the best club in the area, it puts a ton of effort in with the lower ages, and then they finish strong in HS.

And no, not an M&D parent, but I can appreciate a well run organization.

Uh I was talking about actual young teams, as in the first 3 years of teams. Everything I said was accurate as to them. You just talk about young teams and lower age groups as if those ages don’t exist. When you get to middle school, those aren’t near the youngest teams of the club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

This is definitely not the approach of HG and M&D and Skywalkers. The latter two put nothing into their younger teams. They thrive later despite having poo poo younger teams. The former (HG) focuses on development over winning at th youngest ages, even when they know they are in conflict. What you describe is the goal of clubs like MDU and Coppermine and HoCo, because it’s the only way they can get girls later. Top clubs don’t think of it that way at all.

So many idiotic takes here, but this one is special.

Young M&D teams:
2032s- #2
2031s- #1
2030s- #2
2035s- no eligible for ranking, but should at least make it to semis, started 2-0.

For the HS aged teams:
2029s have been ranked in top 5 every single year.
2028s have never been ranked lower than 7th, were top 5 up through middle school.
2027s have never been ranked lower than #3.

The 2033s and 2034s are the only “struggling” teams, and the 33s are top 20. M&D is the best club in the area, it puts a ton of effort in with the lower ages, and then they finish strong in HS.

And no, not an M&D parent, but I can appreciate a well run organization.

Uh I was talking about actual young teams, as in the first 3 years of teams. Everything I said was accurate as to them. You just talk about young teams and lower age groups as if those ages don’t exist. When you get to middle school, those aren’t near the youngest teams of the club.

Yes, and outside of the 33s and 34s, every single one of the M&D teams listed dominated elementary school club ball. You can tell bc in 6th when rankings were introduced, they were all top 5, meaning they were already great teams at the youngest ages. Everything you said was idiotic and incorrect. And wtf are you talking about I talk as if the younger teams don’t exist? I listed every single current black team in the program down to the 2035s.

[Anonymous]

35, 34, 33 = “the younger years”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:35, 34, 33 = “the younger years”

You are pretending not to understand me because you made a statement that is easily disproven and you double down.

You claim that M&D doesn’t put any effort into younger teams, but based on what? Two current teams that are struggling compared to past M&D teams, but you ignore the fact that you can go back over a decade and have M&D teams dominating the elementary aged years. The 27s, the 28s, the 29s and so on crushed in 3rd through 5th grade, go look it up. For some reason, girls have stuck with clubs like HOCO and Limelight in the 33s and 34s, it happens. It happened in the 28s when Crush stuck together through 8th grade. But them staying isn’t bc of a lack of effort from M&D. I know for a fact that both the 33s and 34s are recruiting like crazy and have several amazing players coming over this summer. You are just wrong.

[Anonymous]

33 and below are elementary school. None dominated/dominate. I agree that come middle school, people start focusing, noticing, caring. M&D and Hero’s know they can clean it up later just based on them being those clubs.

I believe the teams that care most about winning and ranking at the ES age are the ones next level down—MDU, Coppermine, HoCo. They won’t get anyone coming to them if they aren’t winning and ranked. They will just have people jumping ship.

Back to discussing HG ‘33. HoCo ‘33 can beat them. Fast forward to 2 years, and that won’t be the case. I think they’re getting ready for the middle school overhaul.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:33 and below are elementary school. None dominated/dominate. I agree that come middle school, people start focusing, noticing, caring. M&D and Hero’s know they can clean it up later just based on them being those clubs.

I believe the teams that care most about winning and ranking at the ES age are the ones next level down—MDU, Coppermine, HoCo. They won’t get anyone coming to them if they aren’t winning and ranked. They will just have people jumping ship.

Back to discussing HG ‘33. HoCo ‘33 can beat them. Fast forward to 2 years, and that won’t be the case. I think they’re getting ready for the middle school overhaul.

Yeah, I know what classes are in elementary school slick. So the 27s, 28s, 29s, 30s, etc. all dominated the “younger” years, but then M&D out of nowhere started not caring about the younger teams with the 33s and 34s? That is what you are going with? Again, you can go back to the beginning of the club and point to two M&D black teams that weren’t unreal in elementary school and that means that they don’t care about the younger age groups, lmao.

What you believe is the exact opposite of reality. CM had to focus on younger teams bc it is a relatively new club and had to build from the bottom up. MDU’s director has absolutely zero to do with the clubs bf HS, she pays no attention at all, which is a reason why they can’t hold on to talent. HOCO has to focus on the younger teams bc the club is a joke and everyone leaves eventually.

Like I said, M&D puts in a ton of effort with each team, every single year; that is why they crush. I’m a DC area parent of multiple athletes, and M&D has always destroyed in elementary school. They are recruiting hard for those two clubs, why would this be the case for a club that didn’t care about elementary school ball?

[Anonymous]

There are absolutely zero elite clubs that mail it in for the es aged teams. What a bad take.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't have a kid on the team but I know the team and the staff.

Kruger is a good coach, solid pedigree, he gets it.

They're really young, but my experience with Hero's teams is that the top kids play a lot, the middle kids play often, and the lowest 2-3 play a little.

It's club, you're not paying for game time, you're paying for coaching and practice reps. If you want more playing time, be better than the next girl up. Just my two cents.

Hero’s used to, at least, tell a different story. That if you made the team, you could play for the team. Close to equally.

Isn’t the whole notion of club to play all girls because its point is recruiting? Whereas high school teams you play based on perceived skill and only to win.

That’s a lot of money to pay to be on a practice squad. No from me.

The goal is to win during the younger years so you are ranked high and get the good players and come recruiting time, lots of coaches on the sidelines. Once sophomore year comes, it is equal playing time.

“The goal is to win during the younger years, so you are ranked high and get the good players come recruiting time.”

This is not the mentality of the very top clubs. It doesn’t need to be. If it were, Hero’s Green would run their ES teams much differently.

[Anonymous]

Unsure your definition of mailing it in.
Do you consider Skywalkers elite?