Scott Galloway how to save teenage boys.

[Anonymous]

Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

[Anonymous]

The social contract is broken for everyone in this country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

[Anonymous]

He has made this his mission in life. He has 2 boys. I have 3. I get where he is coming from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

Isn't it interesting that young white men are becoming increasingly more conservative, the party who believes everyone can succeed if they just work hard? Now that they have to work as hard as everyone else has had to do for decades they're mad about it.

I think this is a complex issue. I understand why white men feel left behind when our culture has historically put them above everyone else. There's a huge culture shift. It's no longer enough to simply be a white man. They need to step up and work as hard as everyone else. I keep seeing the reports of young men not being able to find a partner and the loneliness epidemic. Women don't have to settle for mediocre anymore. They want a partner, not a man child. They can make their own money and don't need to get married in order to support themselves. There's a reason conservatives are pushing so hard against abortion, birth control, paid maternity leave, etc. They need to make women dependent on men otherwise their chances of marriage will continue to decrease (until men learn they need to step it up).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Isn't some of this down to parenting? If theyre falling behind at school, should parents not be noticing/helping? If they have no confidence to approach people IRL is that not a parenting failure again?

I do agree that tech, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories are easy to fall into when you have no actual life, but again, is that not parenting?

[Anonymous]

Sexism. If women are as good as "us" and can outachieve "us" there's nothing further to do....
Obviously not so simplistically. -NP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

Isn't it interesting that young white men are becoming increasingly more conservative, the party who believes everyone can succeed if they just work hard? Now that they have to work as hard as everyone else has had to do for decades they're mad about it.

I think this is a complex issue. I understand why white men feel left behind when our culture has historically put them above everyone else. There's a huge culture shift. It's no longer enough to simply be a white man. They need to step up and work as hard as everyone else. I keep seeing the reports of young men not being able to find a partner and the loneliness epidemic. Women don't have to settle for mediocre anymore. They want a partner, not a man child. They can make their own money and don't need to get married in order to support themselves. There's a reason conservatives are pushing so hard against abortion, birth control, paid maternity leave, etc. They need to make women dependent on men otherwise their chances of marriage will continue to decrease (until men learn they need to step it up).

Big yes to the bolded! And its so funny to me, that liberal feminist young men are NOT suffering this. Is it chicken or egg? Are young men being drawn to conservatism because they can't get any female attention, or are women not even bothering to look their way because of their toxic conservative views? Maybe both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

Isn't it interesting that young white men are becoming increasingly more conservative, the party who believes everyone can succeed if they just work hard? Now that they have to work as hard as everyone else has had to do for decades they're mad about it.

I think this is a complex issue. I understand why white men feel left behind when our culture has historically put them above everyone else. There's a huge culture shift. It's no longer enough to simply be a white man. They need to step up and work as hard as everyone else. I keep seeing the reports of young men not being able to find a partner and the loneliness epidemic. Women don't have to settle for mediocre anymore. They want a partner, not a man child. They can make their own money and don't need to get married in order to support themselves. There's a reason conservatives are pushing so hard against abortion, birth control, paid maternity leave, etc. They need to make women dependent on men otherwise their chances of marriage will continue to decrease (until men learn they need to step it up).

(The bold part above): Slovenians are apparently raised to want the latter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He has made this his mission in life. He has 2 boys. I have 3. I get where he is coming from.

me too. I see it everywhere.
it starts in schools. middle schools.

[Anonymous]

Except liberal white women are the least happy cohort, so I guess it isn’t working out well for them either….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
“The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone.

It's gone for everyone, but it's only boys (or overwhelmingly boys) who seem unable to function, who get addicted to porn and racist YouTubers and PUA scamming, who are just so sad they have to get violent.

This whole argument, including the bit about slower brain development, is basically an argument to put boys under conservatorship for their own and everyone else's protection. I don't think that's what the proponents want, but it's the logical conclusion of their argument that boys are just too slow and sad to function in the world ...
even though all the richest and most powerful people in the world are men, and we are one generation out from women being a minority in college and not being allowed to open bank accounts. Meaning, the very economic conditions these guys struggle with were created and perpetuated by men.

Tl:dr - pull the other leg

[Anonymous]

Today's boys didn't create the world they are growing up in but they are still being indirectly blamed or are at least absorbing that message. They are going where they feel empowered which is a natural response.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Really interesting takes on boys and technology. I think he’s right about a lot but off on some things but I think his ideas are worth discussing. Are we failing boy? Have we put girls ahead of boys or have women just put their heads down and figured it out?

Excerpt:

“ …his stats tell a worrying story. In 1950, 50 per cent of men under 30 had children; now it’s 21 per cent (and 60 per cent of young men aged 18-24 still live with their parents). The downstream effects are startling: 1 in 3 men under 30 hasn’t had sex in the past year; 45 per cent of men aged 18-25 have never approached a woman in person (as opposed to online) to ask them on a date.

“No cohort has fallen further, faster than young men,” he asserts. “You ask me about the [Tommy Robinson] march in London? History shows us fascism breeds among sad, lonely, badly educated males who are most susceptible to conspiracy theories. Trump got elected because we have a young man problem. And you want to know why his vote went up among women over 45? I believe they are concerned mothers.”

“It begins with education. Boys’ slower brain development (the male prefrontal cortex matures later than in girls) means they quickly fall behind girls at school. What’s more, higher education is now prohibitively expensive, while manual jobs have disappeared due to globalisation and AI. Even for those working, inflation has devalued wages and housing is increasingly unaffordable.

The social contract is broken,” he says. “The promise that working hard and following the rules means your life will be better than for previous generations is gone. In that landscape of despair, the temptations offered by godlike technology, porn, gambling and conspiracy theories can be irresistible.”

Full article.

https://www.thetimes.com/life-style/parenting/article/scott-galloway-how-save-teenage-boys-gckntn7t9

Sorry, but this is BS.

Yea, technology changed. Those changes have also made it easier than ever to get ahead. Our grandparents would have killed for the opportunities we have now.

I became a single mom in 2019 with zero job skills. The career I had gone to college for was gone, and I had been a SAHM for so long my resume was worthless. I figured out what jobs had growth potential, got an entry-level position making minimum wage, and over 5 years worked my way up to making 6 figures. All while raising kids. Every free moment I had was spent on free education (podcasts + YouTube), and any extra money I made went to career development.

It was hard. Was it as hard as our grandmothers and great-grandmothers had it? Absolutely not. There were zero career opportunities for women then, and being a single mom meant poverty for life.

I just don't have much empathy for young men who want to complain life is hard when they've been handed literally every advantage and have the entire Internet, and all the free education that comes along with it, in their pockets. Mr. Beast was making several times more money than his parents by the time he was a teenager. Is every boy going to be Mr Beast? No. But if you work hard and take the time to learn the system, you can succeed.

Isn't it interesting that young white men are becoming increasingly more conservative, the party who believes everyone can succeed if they just work hard? Now that they have to work as hard as everyone else has had to do for decades they're mad about it.

I think this is a complex issue. I understand why white men feel left behind when our culture has historically put them above everyone else. There's a huge culture shift. It's no longer enough to simply be a white man. They need to step up and work as hard as everyone else. I keep seeing the reports of young men not being able to find a partner and the loneliness epidemic. Women don't have to settle for mediocre anymore. They want a partner, not a man child. They can make their own money and don't need to get married in order to support themselves. There's a reason conservatives are pushing so hard against abortion, birth control, paid maternity leave, etc. They need to make women dependent on men otherwise their chances of marriage will continue to decrease (until men learn they need to step it up).

These things are contradictory but I think are mostly an urban and suburban problem. My boys believe they can do well if they work hard, and they do. But they also don’t spend much time on the Internet and have more traditional hobbies, like fixing cars and building things in our shop. I think the solution is just get us all off the Internet and back in the real world (as I sit here on the Internet, I know…need to do better myself but I have a desk job!)

[Anonymous]

What's with all the boy hate and negativity? Maybe that is the issue.