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Anonymous
I knew it was coming, but the rate increase really hurts. I looked at my account. I used the same amount of electricity last month as October 2023. My bill is almost $100 higher.

What on earth can we do??
jsteele
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If you are able, get solar panels. You can still get a 30% tax credit until the end of the year. Plus DC has very high SREC payments so the system will pay for itself quickly.
Anonymous
DP and we have been contemplating this for a while as we plan to stay long term. But I'm so confused about providers and owning vs. "renting" and how repairs are done and tesla and on and on. I think I saved the name of reputable installer so at least I have that.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:DP and we have been contemplating this for a while as we plan to stay long term. But I'm so confused about providers and owning vs. "renting" and how repairs are done and tesla and on and on. I think I saved the name of reputable installer so at least I have that.


I wrote a blog post about our experience getting solar that is kind of a Solar 101. You might find it helpful:

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/weblog/special042024/

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DP and we have been contemplating this for a while as we plan to stay long term. But I'm so confused about providers and owning vs. "renting" and how repairs are done and tesla and on and on. I think I saved the name of reputable installer so at least I have that.

Buy, don’t rent. We used Solar solutions. Easy and worth it!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DP and we have been contemplating this for a while as we plan to stay long term. But I'm so confused about providers and owning vs. "renting" and how repairs are done and tesla and on and on. I think I saved the name of reputable installer so at least I have that.

Buy, don’t rent. We used Solar solutions. Easy and worth it!


+1

We pay $250 a year now for electricity. And get a check back from sending extra to thr grid every few months.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I knew it was coming, but the rate increase really hurts. I looked at my account. I used the same amount of electricity last month as October 2023. My bill is almost $100 higher.

What on earth can we do??


Support nuclear power.
Anonymous
Getting solar as a DC resident is a no brainer. It is beyond me that everyone hasn't done this, and particularly this year before the federal credits expire.
Anonymous
Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.


I mean...in DC I paid a net $15k after the tax credits and save around $1200 on my electric bill and make about $3200/year selling the SREC credits. So, earn $4400 per year on a $15k investment. Also, in theory I am saving even more $1200 because that is based on what I was paying back in 2022 when I had the solar installed vs. what my old bill would be today with the increased rates.

Make sense now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.


If you don't want to front the money and/or don't want to risk the collapse of the SREC market, Solar Solutions and other providers have no-cost solar options. That is, they keep the SRECs and tax credits and you get free electricity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.


Ignoring the SREC credits...think about it this way...if you spend $26k, you get a $7,280 tax credit if you were to get them installed this year, so that's a net price of $18,720. If you save $1,500/year, that's an 8% guaranteed return on your money. The stock market averages 8% per year over the long-term and there is risk involved...so why wouldn't you opt for a guaranteed 8% return?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.


Ignoring the SREC credits...think about it this way...if you spend $26k, you get a $7,280 tax credit if you were to get them installed this year, so that's a net price of $18,720. If you save $1,500/year, that's an 8% guaranteed return on your money. The stock market averages 8% per year over the long-term and there is risk involved...so why wouldn't you opt for a guaranteed 8% return?


Plus, the system should last you 25-30 years. Once you've paid back the money for the system, everything else is gravy.

Anonymous
I'm very pro solar panels but I don't think it's very responsive to OP's plight. Many people cannot get solar panels. We live in a condo building and the building management doesn't want to give up roof space (currently used as a deck) for panels. We suggested building a portico over parking spaces with panels but this was deemed infeasible. So we gave up -- solar panels are just not an option for us, or for anyone who rents, or for lots of other people who don't have a place to put them or can't afford the upfront cost of installation even with the tax rebate.

So for the vast majority of people, it's not a solution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Something doesn't make sense. Spend 26K to save 1500 a year in electric bill.


get 1/3 as a federal credit, so now it is $15k.
get annual SREC revenue and then factor in the savings on the energy bill, you have a 4-5 year payback and then after it is annual profit. Over 20-30 years, it is into the 6 figures.
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