5th Grade Fall MAP test using 6+?

[Anonymous]

Enrolled in MAP 5/6. Is this normal? I believed they only switched to 6+ at the Spring 5th

[Anonymous]

Last year was the first year where all math 5/6 students took the 6th grade and up MAP test (at least at our school)

[Anonymous]

Then how does MS magnets use the 5th grader fall and winter map-m for their selection? The result sheet doesn’t say anywhere which bank was administrated?

[Anonymous]

My kid did MAP 5 last year in 4th grade in compacted math. There was a dip in her fall score but then it went way up in the spring. Same thing this fall with MAP 6.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid did MAP 5 last year in 4th grade in compacted math. There was a dip in her fall score but then it went way up in the spring. Same thing this fall with MAP 6.

Yeah, I wish they wouldn’t base criteria programs on fall scores!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Enrolled in MAP 5/6. Is this normal? I believed they only switched to 6+ at the Spring 5th

Our school made a point of saying it was required by the county.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Then how does MS magnets use the 5th grader fall and winter map-m for their selection? The result sheet doesn’t say anywhere which bank was administrated?

They use spring of 4th or fall of 5th (whichever is highest) for math/science criteria based MS magnet selection. This was in the FAQs last year.
Our kid, in compacted 5/6 was one of those who had a dip in their 5th grade fall map-m last year (due to taking the 6+ battery, zero enrichment at any time and super fun summer 😄). But they met the eligibility criteria for math/science MS magnet and was in the lottery pool as their spring map-m was the usual high score (didn’t get a spot but we have a good home MS. They are currently enjoying pre-algebra 😉).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kid did MAP 5 last year in 4th grade in compacted math. There was a dip in her fall score but then it went way up in the spring. Same thing this fall with MAP 6.

Yeah, I wish they wouldn’t base criteria programs on fall scores!

It took a year from when they first instituted having the higher-level MAP test used throughout the year for those taking Math 5/6, but MCPS now understands that there is higher individual variation when moving MAP levels from the prior test, even as the progression of the mean stays relatively consistent across large numbers of test takers taking that new version. They accommodated by using, for those taking Math 5/6, the higher locally normed MAP-M percentile of 4th grade spring and 5th grade fall when considering placement in the Math/Science/CS criteria-based magnet lottery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid did MAP 5 last year in 4th grade in compacted math. There was a dip in her fall score but then it went way up in the spring. Same thing this fall with MAP 6.

Dips in fall are normal and not cause for concern unless winter scores continue to be low. By the way, there is no MAP 5. There are three batteries of MAP-M: K-2; 3-5; 6+.
The set of questions reflect higher order topics in each subsequent map. While
they claim continuity in RIT scores on average, individually dips are common when transitioning from K-2 to 3-5; and especially from 3-5 to 6+, as the latter covers many new higher order concepts.
Even super mathy kids are likely to experience dips if they have not had any prior exposure to these new concepts (e.g., if you’ve never been exposed, it is very hard/next to impossible to figure out what a complex number is and that i represents the imaginary number 🙈)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Enrolled in MAP 5/6. Is this normal? I believed they only switched to 6+ at the Spring 5th

Our school made a point of saying it was required by the county.

It is.

The issue is that the principal purposes of MAP are to assess how well teachers/schools are doing (it yields more analyzable data than state testing/MCAP) and to provide insight to teachers about the individual competencies (notably, sub-scores) of their students to help them hone lessons (don't get us started on how well that might be done across the system). Sticking to one version of the test across the year for students/a class is best practice for these purposes, if not absolutely essential. Though it can be used as an auxiliary support for magnet program placement, that is not MAP's designed purpose

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid did MAP 5 last year in 4th grade in compacted math. There was a dip in her fall score but then it went way up in the spring. Same thing this fall with MAP 6.

Dips in fall are normal and not cause for concern unless winter scores continue to be low. By the way, there is no MAP 5. There are three batteries of MAP-M: K-2; 3-5; 6+.
The set of questions reflect higher order topics in each subsequent map. While
they claim continuity in RIT scores on average, individually dips are common when transitioning from K-2 to 3-5; and especially from 3-5 to 6+, as the latter covers many new higher order concepts.
Even super mathy kids are likely to experience dips if they have not had any prior exposure to these new concepts (e.g., if you’ve never been exposed, it is very hard/next to impossible to figure out what a complex number is and that i represents the imaginary number 🙈)

Those dips only affect students who were scoring way off the charts deep into the 99 percentile, bumping into the hardest questions in the MAP 2-5 Bank, where the whole statistical model of MAP breaks down. It has no practical relevance on qualifying for magnets or anything else.