Reading book

Anonymous
My child reads a lot of chapter books by himself quietly, and I would say about one book/week(about 150-300 pages). How come I don't see any improvement in writing and MAP R scores stays low (compared to peers at 4th grade in CES). He reads age appropriate chapter books for age 8 and above, sometimes for age 10-12. Do parents have to read the same book and tests kids on the reading comprehension part? Does writing need to be taught by parents? He still writes a ton of simple sentences.
Anonymous
What kids of books is he reading? Is he comprehending what he is reading? By 4th grade they can read more advanced texts. You can read more complicated books with him. Older texts have more challenging prose sometimes than newer plot focused grade level book. Things like Redwall, box car children etc.
Writing should be getting more complex, descriptive. Writing is not taught particularly well in my opinion.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My child reads a lot of chapter books by himself quietly, and I would say about one book/week(about 150-300 pages). How come I don't see any improvement in writing and MAP R scores stays low (compared to peers at 4th grade in CES). He reads age appropriate chapter books for age 8 and above, sometimes for age 10-12. Do parents have to read the same book and tests kids on the reading comprehension part? Does writing need to be taught by parents? He still writes a ton of simple sentences.


Where parents have to do everything. It is fckiiin getting so old.
Anonymous
It sounds like he would benefit from more advanced material. It can be challenging to find material that is advanced for an elementary school aged child, but still age appropriate for them. Ask his CES teacher or a librarian for sources and suggestions.

Most of us can read and comprehend at a higher level than we can write. Being well read improves writing skills, but writing still requires a different skill set than reading. Actual instruction, feedback, and practice are required to hone writing skills.
Anonymous
MAP tests an arbitrary selection of literary/comprehension/verbal/informational concepts, not just passing eyes over words on a page or decoding words.

If you want to see growth, you need the child to think about what they are reading, and ask and answer questions about it, and learn standard terminology like "metaphor". It need to cover prose, poetry, fiction and non-fiction.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It sounds like he would benefit from more advanced material. It can be challenging to find material that is advanced for an elementary school aged child, but still age appropriate for them. Ask his CES teacher or a librarian for sources and suggestions.

Most of us can read and comprehend at a higher level than we can write. Being well read improves writing skills, but writing still requires a different skill set than reading. Actual instruction, feedback, and practice are required to hone writing skills.


This. Also, ability to analyse, recognize patterns, themes and motifs...all of that is important. You need a good teacher or have access to materials teachers use.
Anonymous
I used to make my kids read books covered in https://www.sparknotes.com and use that website to teach them writing, reading comprehension etc . We covered most of the books on that website, and got some mileage for ELA and writing skills.

That was my low cost DIY solution.



Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:MAP tests an arbitrary selection of literary/comprehension/verbal/informational concepts, not just passing eyes over words on a page or decoding words.

If you want to see growth, you need the child to think about what they are reading, and ask and answer questions about it, and learn standard terminology like "metaphor". It need to cover prose, poetry, fiction and non-fiction.


Op here. My kid reads mostly fantasy or adventure books like land of stories, Harry Potter etc. They are all considered fiction. I don't even know they have prose, poetry and non fiction books appropriate and fun to read for this age.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MAP tests an arbitrary selection of literary/comprehension/verbal/informational concepts, not just passing eyes over words on a page or decoding words.

If you want to see growth, you need the child to think about what they are reading, and ask and answer questions about it, and learn standard terminology like "metaphor". It need to cover prose, poetry, fiction and non-fiction.


Op here. My kid reads mostly fantasy or adventure books like land of stories, Harry Potter etc. They are all considered fiction. I don't even know they have prose, poetry and non fiction books appropriate and fun to read for this age.

There are appropriate books from just about every genre for that age. Do elementary schools put out summer reading lists/challenges any more? When my high schoolers were in elementary school, they were supposed to vary their reading during the summer: one nonfiction book, one science fiction book, one book of poetry, one mystery, one book about an athlete or sports, one autobiography, prepare a food by following a recipe.

There are history and science books for kids. There are books filled with fun facts, explanations of how things work, craft ideas, advice for athletes, etiquette, how-to books on drawing, gardening, building things, etc.

Visit the library often. They’ll put up displays with suggested books around holidays and cultural events (like the Olympics or a presidential election). They also showcase new releases.

Websites like Good Reads can help you find books. You can browse booksellers’ websites by genre and age and then see if the library has those books.
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