Next steps for those that didn’t get into full time AAP

[Anonymous]

Curious how different schools handle “full time aap rejected” kids. Does the school reach out and offer principal placement? Have they reached out yet?

Do we as parents need to do anything or just wait for part time / local principal placement? Would the process of applying to full time be enough to show them we have interest in our child for these programs?

Also interested if you’re considering private school options and your reasoning for that.

[Anonymous]

I didn’t find our school to be helpful at all. I really don’t know if you have to buddy up with the principal or be in the PTO to have influence. I work full time and it was hard to do that. We never got contacted about principal placement. I only learned about it from this forum. I figured if a kid really stands and was in pool and got rejected, there are grounds to ask for the principal to help. But I don’t think they proactively reach out. So you should do that soon as classes are being determined now for next year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious how different schools handle “full time aap rejected” kids. Does the school reach out and offer principal placement? Have they reached out yet?

Do we as parents need to do anything or just wait for part time / local principal placement? Would the process of applying to full time be enough to show them we have interest in our child for these programs?

Also interested if you’re considering private school options and your reasoning for that.

My child was not accepted into the full-time AAP. We applied for Level III AAP, and he was accepted.

At our elementary school, Level III kids take the same classes as local Level IV AAP kids, which he did. He got into advanced math in fifth grade. We reapplied for full-time AAP when he was in sixth grade, and he was accepted. He is now in AAP classes at his middle school.

[Anonymous]

Our school doesn't have local full time or advanced math until 5th - so, there's nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school doesn't have local full time or advanced math until 5th - so, there's nothing.

NP. This is what happened to us several years ago. Our oldest went through AAP and had a good experience. Our base school had no LLIV and offered no advanced math until 5th grade and a plurality of kids were academically behind.

My suggestion would be to supplement heavily outside of school or if you can swing it, look into private school especially if most of the kids at your base school are below grade level. A lot of people push back on this line of thinking but most of them don't have kids who have been in the situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Our school doesn't have local full time or advanced math until 5th - so, there's nothing.

I think next school year, the last three schools will be implementing LL4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Curious how different schools handle “full time aap rejected” kids. Does the school reach out and offer principal placement? Have they reached out yet?

Do we as parents need to do anything or just wait for part time / local principal placement? Would the process of applying to full time be enough to show them we have interest in our child for these programs?

Also interested if you’re considering private school options and your reasoning for that.

I think you really have to be an advocate for your child throughout the entire process. We were pretty demoralized after being “rejected”in the regular admission process. Still, we knew we would be ok in the regular classes but coming from a private school we had to do the parent referral and all the leg work. I don’t believe there is/was an avenue for level 3 part time, just depends on the teachers to recommend… where I am going with this is there is always an appeal process in every location and despite hearing how low the chances were, we submitted the appeal. Our child was accepted for full time and I would strongly suggest if you are denied initially, go through the process. Do not believe everything you hear about your chances

[Anonymous]

It’s never an exact, transparent process so I would never say a child is not capable or eligible. I never did AP in school and worked through an Ivy League MBA but was not without trying several times

[Anonymous]

The main differentiator is advanced math. Hopefully your school starts it in 3rd, and your kid’s math grades and interest in math are high and they are accepted.

If your school doesn’t start advanced math until 5th, now is the time to start working with the kid on math so hopefully they can qualify in 5th. I suspect that there are more “hard qualifiers” and objective criteria in 5th grade advanced math schools. Probably pass advanced on the 3rd and 4th grade math SOL’s + high math grades and 90th%+ IReady. 3rd grade advanced math seems a little fuzzier without the SOL’s to fall back on.

I have a kid in advanced math (3rd grade) in a LLIV school and, honestly, with Benchmark as the new LA curriculum, I’m not sure what the difference is anymore in anything other than math. Of course, you’d probably have more of a difference at a center. But my kid only qualified for advanced math and it’s been fine. He is already in advanced math for 4th grade, got pass advanced on his 3rd grade math SOL, I Ready has been 95th%+ for math in all of 2nd and 3rd grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find our school to be helpful at all. I really don’t know if you have to buddy up with the principal or be in the PTO to have influence. I work full time and it was hard to do that. We never got contacted about principal placement. I only learned about it from this forum. I figured if a kid really stands and was in pool and got rejected, there are grounds to ask for the principal to help. But I don’t think they proactively reach out. So you should do that soon as classes are being determined now for next year.

I am a principal. Asking to be placed in an AAP class would be the fastest way to ensure your kid is not getting into that class. The last thing I would want is for anyone to think is that they have to be in the PTO or “buddy up” to me to get special favors. If word got out that all you had to do was bug the principal with that request, I’d lose all credibility.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find our school to be helpful at all. I really don’t know if you have to buddy up with the principal or be in the PTO to have influence. I work full time and it was hard to do that. We never got contacted about principal placement. I only learned about it from this forum. I figured if a kid really stands and was in pool and got rejected, there are grounds to ask for the principal to help. But I don’t think they proactively reach out. So you should do that soon as classes are being determined now for next year.

I am a principal. Asking to be placed in an AAP class would be the fastest way to ensure your kid is not getting into that class. The last thing I would want is for anyone to think is that they have to be in the PTO or “buddy up” to me to get special favors. If word got out that all you had to do was bug the principal with that request, I’d lose all credibility.

Ok…. so what are we supposed to do then? Just wait around for your call?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find our school to be helpful at all. I really don’t know if you have to buddy up with the principal or be in the PTO to have influence. I work full time and it was hard to do that. We never got contacted about principal placement. I only learned about it from this forum. I figured if a kid really stands and was in pool and got rejected, there are grounds to ask for the principal to help. But I don’t think they proactively reach out. So you should do that soon as classes are being determined now for next year.

I am a principal. Asking to be placed in an AAP class would be the fastest way to ensure your kid is not getting into that class. The last thing I would want is for anyone to think is that they have to be in the PTO or “buddy up” to me to get special favors. If word got out that all you had to do was bug the principal with that request, I’d lose all credibility.

DP. While no one should be buddying up to a principal to get into a class, there should also be a lot more transparency with regard to how this stuff is handled and decided.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t find our school to be helpful at all. I really don’t know if you have to buddy up with the principal or be in the PTO to have influence. I work full time and it was hard to do that. We never got contacted about principal placement. I only learned about it from this forum. I figured if a kid really stands and was in pool and got rejected, there are grounds to ask for the principal to help. But I don’t think they proactively reach out. So you should do that soon as classes are being determined now for next year.

I am a principal. Asking to be placed in an AAP class would be the fastest way to ensure your kid is not getting into that class. The last thing I would want is for anyone to think is that they have to be in the PTO or “buddy up” to me to get special favors. If word got out that all you had to do was bug the principal with that request, I’d lose all credibility.

Interesting. I would have said it worked as the first PP described at our school as well based on our experience being new to FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Kids not accepted into full time are automatically screened at the local school for part time services. Notifications for part time services should be out. You can email your schools AART.

Some schools principal place high achieving kids to fill the AAP classes as I understand. I don’t think an email to the principal will serve you well. I would start with the AART.

If you didn’t get in this year, look where you think the places to improve. That might mean retaking the cogat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The main differentiator is advanced math. Hopefully your school starts it in 3rd, and your kid’s math grades and interest in math are high and they are accepted.

If your school doesn’t start advanced math until 5th, now is the time to start working with the kid on math so hopefully they can qualify in 5th. I suspect that there are more “hard qualifiers” and objective criteria in 5th grade advanced math schools. Probably pass advanced on the 3rd and 4th grade math SOL’s + high math grades and 90th%+ IReady. 3rd grade advanced math seems a little fuzzier without the SOL’s to fall back on.

I have a kid in advanced math (3rd grade) in a LLIV school and, honestly, with Benchmark as the new LA curriculum, I’m not sure what the difference is anymore in anything other than math. Of course, you’d probably have more of a difference at a center. But my kid only qualified for advanced math and it’s been fine. He is already in advanced math for 4th grade, got pass advanced on his 3rd grade math SOL, I Ready has been 95th%+ for math in all of 2nd and 3rd grades.

My kid got into advanced math in 5th. No aap, and is currently a 7th grader at a non aap school taking algebra honers. Everyone is overthinking this. My child did not get 90 percentile or above in the iReady in 3rd or 4th, and did not get pass advanced on the 4th grade sol. (she got 472) There is a test that the 5th grade team gives out to the students on performance matters. If you get a specific percentage, you get in. We didn’t know any of this… our child just took it and we got a letter saying she got into advanced math. Now, probably different for other ES, but this is what happened with us, so don’t start stressing because the test is quite easy (according to my kid in 5th)