Part Time/Subject Specific AAP in 3rd?

[Anonymous]

My DD was not admitted to AAP - I am confident she will not get in on appeal but would like to pursue part time/subject specific.

Our AART seems very distant and prefers not to meet (I had some questions on process as she's our oldest and we're new to the community). She said it's basically decided with her and my daughter's teacher. The problem is (among others), I really do not believe her teacher truly understands her or, frankly, is a good teacher! Other parents have expressed frustration with this teacher and our experience has been similar. Clearly things like test scores are objective, but this teacher has no control over her classroom and i'm not confident in her abilities. It's her first year in Grade 2, too.

I think my daughter should be given the opportunity to prove herself. If she struggles - we can pull her. But I think she will rise to the occasion.

Any thoughts/advice?

[Anonymous]

Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

I'm so sorry but what does this mean? I know I can apply again for full time next year - but thought it would take effect in 4th grade and I wouldn't find out until April like this time? Maybe I don't understand what Level III is? My AART said subject specific/part time decisions were being made in May...

Thanks so much for your help and feedback.

[Anonymous]

Level II is subject specific material. At most schools it amounts to some extra worksheets and maybe an advanced reading group.

Level III starts in 3rd grade. It is supposed to be a one hour a week pull out that focuses on creative thinking and problem solving. Some schools hold it regularly, some schools don't. My son enjoyed it.

Advanced Math is the math acceleration that starts in 3rd grade, at some schools, and 5th grade at other schools. Kids in Advanced math will end up "skipping" sixth grade math, they compact 5th and 6th grade math. At schools where they start in 3rd grade, they compact 3-5th grade math. Compacting the math is probably the wrong term but they math moves more quickly so that they kids complete 6th grade math by the end of 5th grade. In 6th grade they take Math 7 and might be eligible for Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

I'm so sorry but what does this mean? I know I can apply again for full time next year - but thought it would take effect in 4th grade and I wouldn't find out until April like this time? Maybe I don't understand what Level III is? My AART said subject specific/part time decisions were being made in May...

Thanks so much for your help and feedback.

Level III is the old name for subject specific. You can apply at any time and it takes effect within a month, unlike full-time where you apply at one of the 2 deadlines per year for the next semester.

The whole school is typically reviewed in May for the next year for subject specific, but you can apply out of cycle at any time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

I'm so sorry but what does this mean? I know I can apply again for full time next year - but thought it would take effect in 4th grade and I wouldn't find out until April like this time? Maybe I don't understand what Level III is? My AART said subject specific/part time decisions were being made in May...

Thanks so much for your help and feedback.

Level III is the old name for subject specific. You can apply at any time and it takes effect within a month, unlike full-time where you apply at one of the 2 deadlines per year for the next semester.

The whole school is typically reviewed in May for the next year for subject specific, but you can apply out of cycle at any time.

I was told that "full time" was only open to apply in the Fall/winter, approved in May, taking effect the following school year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Level II is subject specific material. At most schools it amounts to some extra worksheets and maybe an advanced reading group.

Level III starts in 3rd grade. It is supposed to be a one hour a week pull out that focuses on creative thinking and problem solving. Some schools hold it regularly, some schools don't. My son enjoyed it.

Advanced Math is the math acceleration that starts in 3rd grade, at some schools, and 5th grade at other schools. Kids in Advanced math will end up "skipping" sixth grade math, they compact 5th and 6th grade math. At schools where they start in 3rd grade, they compact 3-5th grade math. Compacting the math is probably the wrong term but they math moves more quickly so that they kids complete 6th grade math by the end of 5th grade. In 6th grade they take Math 7 and might be eligible for Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think, per the below, some of this has changed and Level III is now subject specific. I'm unaware of Advanced Math!?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Level II is subject specific material. At most schools it amounts to some extra worksheets and maybe an advanced reading group.

Level III starts in 3rd grade. It is supposed to be a one hour a week pull out that focuses on creative thinking and problem solving. Some schools hold it regularly, some schools don't. My son enjoyed it.

Advanced Math is the math acceleration that starts in 3rd grade, at some schools, and 5th grade at other schools. Kids in Advanced math will end up "skipping" sixth grade math, they compact 5th and 6th grade math. At schools where they start in 3rd grade, they compact 3-5th grade math. Compacting the math is probably the wrong term but they math moves more quickly so that they kids complete 6th grade math by the end of 5th grade. In 6th grade they take Math 7 and might be eligible for Algebra 1 H in 7th grade.

I think, per the below, some of this has changed and Level III is now subject specific. I'm unaware of Advanced Math!?

LII started as early as K, DS was in reading and math LII in first and second grade. He was accepted into LIV for third grade but we deferred. His school did not have LLIV so he did LIII and Advanced Math. I have seen people post about LII existing in 1-6 grade, it was a different level then LIII and Advanced Math.

Advanced Math has been it's own program for years.

[Anonymous]

Submit the Level III form now. Your child will probably get admitted into Level II. Mine, despite having very high math scores, never gets Level III. I think it's because we were new to the school last year and like yours, the AART is distant and not willing to engage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

If you apply at the beginning of the year, you'll have missed the deadline, which is in May.

[Anonymous]

I too am disappointed with the teacher and AARTs impression of my daughter. I don’t believe they even have the time to know these kids. Our class is 29 students.

I was told by our AART that kids not accepted into full time are automatically screened for local services. Anyways if you stay at the local school it’s not really any different to be in AAP or not, there aren’t enough kids to teach a separate class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apply at the beginning of next year for level III. They have a month to respond. Your kid will have a new teacher and therefore get a fresh look.

If you apply at the beginning of the year, you'll have missed the deadline, which is in May.

No. Please stop spreading false information you could easily Google.

Parents and guardians may submit the AAP Subject-Specific or Part-Time Services Referral Form to the AART any time during the school year.

(https://www.fcps.edu/academics/advanced-academic-programs-aap/elementary/aap-part-time)

- someone who has submitted that form multiple times for multiple kids, and therefore has seen that webpage multiple times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I too am disappointed with the teacher and AARTs impression of my daughter. I don’t believe they even have the time to know these kids. Our class is 29 students.

I was told by our AART that kids not accepted into full time are automatically screened for local services. Anyways if you stay at the local school it’s not really any different to be in AAP or not, there aren’t enough kids to teach a separate class.

The bolded is elementary school dependent.