CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Oh- to add- I do remember a bunch of patients with flu like illness (fever, fatigue, cough) who were all testing negative for flu around October, and that seemed to last 3-4 weeks in my clinic (the wave of patients presenting, not the illness itself). But this was before even one person in China had it, so very unlikely.

That you know of. China lies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

That’s certainly possible but how do you explain that other countries’ hospitals and ICUs have been overwhelmed by this virus whereas our hospitals are business as usual?

In terms of countries it's Italy and Iran that seem to show signs of being overwhelmed. The other EU countries (which can have even higher numbers of positive cases than the US) aren't showing signs of being overwhelmed. Yet. Nor was South Korea.

We aren't seeing a mass rise of critical care at hospitals. Yet. I take some comfort in that there's been time for it to appear in Seattle and NYC, where the virus first recorded its appearance in the US, but even there it hasn't become pandemic. Yet. Most of the WA state deaths are from the same nursing home, which is very unfortunate. Based on what I'm seeing so far is that we'll end up with a situation similar to South Korea. Rising numbers of infections but low hospitalization and death rates. And South Korea is starting to express hope that the virus has peaked there.

Hospitals in Italy and South Korea have been overwhelmed. Not sure why you think it would be different in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/07/813191526/in-daegu-coronavirus-leaves-city-a-shadow-of-its-usual-bustling-self

https://www.wsj.com/articles/not-enough-doctors-in-daegu-as-virus-cases-rise-south-koreas-response-is-criticized-11582547600

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southkorea/thousands-wait-for-hospital-beds-in-south-korea-as-coronavirus-cases-surge-idUKKBN20R05F?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

They had the cult all at once exposure

[Anonymous]

Korea is actually at 0.72 right now. Which is still pretty high. Amazing that US is not taking it seriously. Korean healthcare quality is similar to here, but much better organized. Which matters for this scale problem.

https://wuhanvirus.kr/

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Oh- to add- I do remember a bunch of patients with flu like illness (fever, fatigue, cough) who were all testing negative for flu around October, and that seemed to last 3-4 weeks in my clinic (the wave of patients presenting, not the illness itself). But this was before even one person in China had it, so very unlikely.

That you know of. China lies

Scientist here. China did not lie on this. The person above who tested patients for flu is right.

[Anonymous]

It’s amazing how one country has impacted everyone globally. Hoe they can learn this second time around to not facilitate number three.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

That’s certainly possible but how do you explain that other countries’ hospitals and ICUs have been overwhelmed by this virus whereas our hospitals are business as usual?

In terms of countries it's Italy and Iran that seem to show signs of being overwhelmed. The other EU countries (which can have even higher numbers of positive cases than the US) aren't showing signs of being overwhelmed. Yet. Nor was South Korea.

We aren't seeing a mass rise of critical care at hospitals. Yet. I take some comfort in that there's been time for it to appear in Seattle and NYC, where the virus first recorded its appearance in the US, but even there it hasn't become pandemic. Yet. Most of the WA state deaths are from the same nursing home, which is very unfortunate. Based on what I'm seeing so far is that we'll end up with a situation similar to South Korea. Rising numbers of infections but low hospitalization and death rates. And South Korea is starting to express hope that the virus has peaked there.

Hospitals in Italy and South Korea have been overwhelmed. Not sure why you think it would be different in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/07/813191526/in-daegu-coronavirus-leaves-city-a-shadow-of-its-usual-bustling-self

https://www.wsj.com/articles/not-enough-doctors-in-daegu-as-virus-cases-rise-south-koreas-response-is-criticized-11582547600

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southkorea/thousands-wait-for-hospital-beds-in-south-korea-as-coronavirus-cases-surge-idUKKBN20R05F?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

They had the cult all at once exposure

Korea did, and turned it around magnificiently.

Italy has the dumbass, low-hygiene, politicians and health officials who never imagined it would come to this. Patients are dying in corridors are we speak in northern Italy.

The USA is shaping up to behave in exactly the same way as the Italians!

We need to close schools now and telework as much as possible to protect the community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Oh- to add- I do remember a bunch of patients with flu like illness (fever, fatigue, cough) who were all testing negative for flu around October, and that seemed to last 3-4 weeks in my clinic (the wave of patients presenting, not the illness itself). But this was before even one person in China had it, so very unlikely.

That you know of. China lies

Scientist here. China did not lie on this. The person above who tested patients for flu is right.

BS. China only tells us what they want us to know.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Oh- to add- I do remember a bunch of patients with flu like illness (fever, fatigue, cough) who were all testing negative for flu around October, and that seemed to last 3-4 weeks in my clinic (the wave of patients presenting, not the illness itself). But this was before even one person in China had it, so very unlikely.

That you know of. China lies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

That’s certainly possible but how do you explain that other countries’ hospitals and ICUs have been overwhelmed by this virus whereas our hospitals are business as usual?

In terms of countries it's Italy and Iran that seem to show signs of being overwhelmed. The other EU countries (which can have even higher numbers of positive cases than the US) aren't showing signs of being overwhelmed. Yet. Nor was South Korea.

We aren't seeing a mass rise of critical care at hospitals. Yet. I take some comfort in that there's been time for it to appear in Seattle and NYC, where the virus first recorded its appearance in the US, but even there it hasn't become pandemic. Yet. Most of the WA state deaths are from the same nursing home, which is very unfortunate. Based on what I'm seeing so far is that we'll end up with a situation similar to South Korea. Rising numbers of infections but low hospitalization and death rates. And South Korea is starting to express hope that the virus has peaked there.

Hospitals in Italy and South Korea have been overwhelmed. Not sure why you think it would be different in the US.

https://www.npr.org/2020/03/07/813191526/in-daegu-coronavirus-leaves-city-a-shadow-of-its-usual-bustling-self

https://www.wsj.com/articles/not-enough-doctors-in-daegu-as-virus-cases-rise-south-koreas-response-is-criticized-11582547600

https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-health-coronavirus-southkorea/thousands-wait-for-hospital-beds-in-south-korea-as-coronavirus-cases-surge-idUKKBN20R05F?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews

They had the cult all at once exposure

Korea did, and turned it around magnificiently.

Italy has the dumbass, low-hygiene, politicians and health officials who never imagined it would come to this. Patients are dying in corridors are we speak in northern Italy.

The USA is shaping up to behave in exactly the same way as the Italians!

We need to close schools now and telework as much as possible to protect the community.

We need all colleges to close so students can get hope before travel becomes impossible.
Also it is insane that we have no 3M masks thanks to Trump.

[Anonymous]

All of Italy will be locked down tomorrow, not just part.

[Anonymous]

Canada increased the scope of their testing and have done over 5000 tests in the last week or so - 98.7% are negative so no sign of widespread community spread. All positives had symptoms and presented as sick. Almost everyone (with the exception of the nursing home patients) and a couple others are self quarantined at home - no hospitalization required.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Wow. Impressive that you were able to test them all for COVID-19.

Yes I’m sure they all had concurrent classic influenza presentation- with positive influenza testing- and covid19

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FWIW - Not trying to be a wise guy and did see the locked thread on this BUT heard from a credible medical professional in the infectious diseases space and she said she thought COVID 19 has been in the US since the late fall or early winter. She felt there has been too much travel and it’s too contagious for it to have taken long. Not sure what this means but she thinks it means that we need to wash our hands and stay smart but that we are already “in it” and need to carry on.

I actually believe this to be true. Remember all the 'we have an early flu season' and 'the vaccine is not well-matched', then 1/2 way into the season (I think when flu actually started in, in earnest) it WAS well-matched. Then there were comments about lots of 'false positives' on flu tests.

Patient 0 had it in Wuhan in November. So your timeline is wrong.

The “early flu season” in December was influenza B. I tested hundreds of patients positive for it. The “second wave” this past month or so is influenza A. Again - I have tested hundreds of patients positive for it. Neither “wave” was COVID-19. Unfortunately.

Oh- to add- I do remember a bunch of patients with flu like illness (fever, fatigue, cough) who were all testing negative for flu around October, and that seemed to last 3-4 weeks in my clinic (the wave of patients presenting, not the illness itself). But this was before even one person in China had it, so very unlikely.

That you know of. China lies

Scientist here. China did not lie on this. The person above who tested patients for flu is right.

BS. China only tells us what they want us to know.

Sorry to intrude on your blind hate, but virologists, infectious disease experts and scientists from related fields have reviewed the data and the Chinese timeline makes complete sense. Research from Chinese scientists studying the epidemic has been published in the greatest international peer-reviewed scientific journals. Their data is solid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All of Italy will be locked down tomorrow, not just part.

Yawn. Those crazy Italians. That’s not gonna happen here!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All of Italy will be locked down tomorrow, not just part.

Yawn. Those crazy Italians. That’s not gonna happen here!

That's what's worrysome.