State Dept - are RIFs coming on Friday?
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Anonymous
First one yes (USAID), second one no. |
Anonymous
This administration doesn’t GAF what the unions say. But they can in fact use performance as a factor in a RIF if they really want to go through the process. |
Anonymous
+1. Gotta love that other PP that somehow thinks unions can prevent poor performers from being fired. The administration is straight out not even recognizing the existence of the unions at a number of places and has steamrolled over the CBAs at others. |
Anonymous
what's your point? So your life has been filled with layoffs, so you can't have empathy for thousands of people who are losing their livelihood? For dedicating their skills in public service? Scientists, park rangers, nurses, state employees.. all gone for no reason. Some people consciously went into federal government knowing career stability was a given. So whats wrong with that? Also.. science funding has been slashed all over the place.. where do scientists go to make this "bank" you speak of.. get a life. I'm sorry to all the state employees... you do not deserve this. |
Anonymous
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I’m a lawyer that advises clients on Hr issues including layoffs. That poster is absolutely correct that generally when rifs are done it is to protect the mission of the organization, not to undermine it, and typically managers will fight to keep their most efficient productive workers or find them new spots. With the feds, there were definitely agencies where they targeted anyone who had accomplished anything over the past 4 years, meaning they kept only the bumps on the log who managed to do nothing year after year. So they threw out the wheat and kept the chaff. |
Anonymous
To give that some context, that is like a tradition. We clapped people off the visa adjudication line after their last adjudication on their last day at Post frequently, and apparently it's done elsewhere in similar situations within the department as well. |
Anonymous
Between the clapping and the hand made signs, it made State Department employees look like a bunch of hysterical theater kids. They laid off 1,300 people. Thats less than 2% of a total workforce that had grown by 23,000 since 2007. It’s only a fraction of the employees that have been added since 2015. I think the agency will survive. |
Anonymous
I’ve been a fed. I *know* for a fact they protect poor performers from being fired. Of course they have to fight the union either way. However, it is easier to win on an across the board RIF than fight the Unions on each bad employee individually. |
Anonymous
May be but the clap outs happened at other agencies too. While I appreciate the support, I took a back exit to avoid it myself a few months ago. |
Anonymous
As of Sept. 2024, there were: 12,831 CS employees (mostly domestic) 14,399 FS employees (mostly overseas) 50,703 Local Staff employees (foreign nationals, all overseas) 2,281 Family Member employees (spouses, all overseas) This RIF was domestic based, focusing on 1,107 Civil Service, which is almost 10% of that category. Another roughly 5% of Civil Service took the DRP. Between Civil Service and Foreign Service, State is already a fairly lean agency, so these cuts will likely disrupt some important functions that employees overseas rely on, such as receiving timely travel orders. |
Anonymous
Well the problem is that your supreme leader is also destroying the economy at the same time so private sector opportunities are not what they used to be. And of course many Feds that chose to go into the government are now older and you can feel free to ask ChatGPT about the stats around age discrimination. But listen I’m sorry you apparently have been unable to work for the federal government or establish something stable for yourself. |
Anonymous
I've only worked in the private sector and never been a fed. But By stupid reasons i mean because someone is trying to destroy their work and the impact it has on the world . People in the private sector aren't fired because of a large lr egomaniacal desire to destroy their world usually |
Anonymous
As someone who's always worked in the private sector, I have seen plenty of highly skilled and competent people laid off. Mass lay offs are tied to both performance and business lines. I've seen profitable business lines shut down because the company decided to go into a different direction. As someone who was laid off, I am sympathetic to what the fed employees are feeling and what they're going through. It's not a pain I wish on anyone. The Clinton Administration laid off something like 350,000 feds back in the 1990s as part of budget cuts (funny how that is forgotten). The current administration is doubtlessly laying off many feds for ideological reasons, but many people agree with those reasons, not just one or two people. And there's probably some truth to that we have an excess of fed programs and some were absolutely controversial and a lot of, say, USAID funding was spent on controversial schemes. And some fed agencies and people within the agencies did act like an ideological opposition/resistance to administrations they didn't like rather than proper neutral civil servants. We saw the boasts on here quite often. Are these layoffs part of the Trump administration's reminding the agencies of their "proper" place? Yes, certainly. |
Anonymous
The RIFs in the Clinton years took years of thoughtful planning to play out. There's little if any thought put into these current cuts done in a matter of months so it really can't be compared. |
Anonymous
see tesla |