Blake Lively- Jason Baldoni and NYT - False Light claims

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is a tale as old as time. A he said she said, the he is a prominent hollywood player who hires a vicious PR firm, the internet rips the woman apart. Zero attempts to look at the situation from both sides. Please provide a single example where in a contentious dispute between a man and a woman in hollywood the woman is believed and the man is injured.

It only happens when someone is SUCH a predator that they assault SO many women that it can't be explained away (weinstein/cosby). And even then they end up getting out of jail!

Prediction: this turns into a 150 page thread talking about what a see you next tuesday you all think she is. Just like all the other multi hundred long page threads in this forum. There isn't one about a man though! It's ALWAYS about the woman. Examine your ingrained misogyny people.

Second prediction: I get a bunch of people replying to me yelling about Blake being awful and Baldoni being her victim and I just blindly take the woman's side.

I'll just get in front of all of those and tell you what I would say in response. These situations are almost always complex with different levels of power at play (in this case, while Lively and Reynolds have significantly higher household name recognition, Baldoni has extremely powerful industry connections, so is not the david to their goliath). And I believe that almost every celebrity is somewhat egotistical/narcissistic almost by the nature of the gig. Therefore it is my belief that there is almost NEVER a party completely innocent here. There is always blame to be found on both sides because it is almost always giant egos fighting with each other. But here, there is never nuance, it is always the woman sucks and the poor man we had a crush on 10 years ago because he was hot in that movie that one time is innocent.

Just bumping my post here from page 14, as I come back in light of this decisive Lively victory today. And I have been gone for HUNDREDS of pages so I'm hardly obsessed but I'm not surprised to come back to it on page 807!

Wow, you really had that post handy considering you haven’t been here for hundreds of pages!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oof I’m a Baldoni supporter but I’ll admit this was a tough day. Ouch. Curious what JB will do next.

Yes, I think the defamation loss hurts and I’d consider hiring an appellate firm to file for interlocutory appeal.

But the main event remains Blake’s claims and I’m confident he’ll prevail on those.

Dp. I personally think the defamation dismissal is highly appealable and I suspect wayfarer et al would have several offers of those willing to assist an appeal against the NYT. Not sure he’d want to get in bed with any of them, however.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

It sounds like HIS team gave him terrible guidance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

I think this is an attempt at humor but honestly, I don’t think Freedman amending the complaint earlier would have gotten a different result from this particular judge.

Yeah, clearly the problem here was the judge.

Well, he is a Trump appointee that just had a MTD in a prominent case reversed last year (Bank of America).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a tale as old as time. A he said she said, the he is a prominent hollywood player who hires a vicious PR firm, the internet rips the woman apart. Zero attempts to look at the situation from both sides. Please provide a single example where in a contentious dispute between a man and a woman in hollywood the woman is believed and the man is injured.

It only happens when someone is SUCH a predator that they assault SO many women that it can't be explained away (weinstein/cosby). And even then they end up getting out of jail!

Prediction: this turns into a 150 page thread talking about what a see you next tuesday you all think she is. Just like all the other multi hundred long page threads in this forum. There isn't one about a man though! It's ALWAYS about the woman. Examine your ingrained misogyny people.

Second prediction: I get a bunch of people replying to me yelling about Blake being awful and Baldoni being her victim and I just blindly take the woman's side.

I'll just get in front of all of those and tell you what I would say in response. These situations are almost always complex with different levels of power at play (in this case, while Lively and Reynolds have significantly higher household name recognition, Baldoni has extremely powerful industry connections, so is not the david to their goliath). And I believe that almost every celebrity is somewhat egotistical/narcissistic almost by the nature of the gig. Therefore it is my belief that there is almost NEVER a party completely innocent here. There is always blame to be found on both sides because it is almost always giant egos fighting with each other. But here, there is never nuance, it is always the woman sucks and the poor man we had a crush on 10 years ago because he was hot in that movie that one time is innocent.

Just bumping my post here from page 14, as I come back in light of this decisive Lively victory today. And I have been gone for HUNDREDS of pages so I'm hardly obsessed but I'm not surprised to come back to it on page 807!

Wow, you really had that post handy considering you haven’t been here for hundreds of pages!

Not much effort to remember the number 14 or get to the 14th page of a thread haha

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

Good point. I’m curious what she’ll do. Again, I think she should take this win and try to shut down this mess

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is a tale as old as time. A he said she said, the he is a prominent hollywood player who hires a vicious PR firm, the internet rips the woman apart. Zero attempts to look at the situation from both sides. Please provide a single example where in a contentious dispute between a man and a woman in hollywood the woman is believed and the man is injured.

It only happens when someone is SUCH a predator that they assault SO many women that it can't be explained away (weinstein/cosby). And even then they end up getting out of jail!

Prediction: this turns into a 150 page thread talking about what a see you next tuesday you all think she is. Just like all the other multi hundred long page threads in this forum. There isn't one about a man though! It's ALWAYS about the woman. Examine your ingrained misogyny people.

Second prediction: I get a bunch of people replying to me yelling about Blake being awful and Baldoni being her victim and I just blindly take the woman's side.

I'll just get in front of all of those and tell you what I would say in response. These situations are almost always complex with different levels of power at play (in this case, while Lively and Reynolds have significantly higher household name recognition, Baldoni has extremely powerful industry connections, so is not the david to their goliath). And I believe that almost every celebrity is somewhat egotistical/narcissistic almost by the nature of the gig. Therefore it is my belief that there is almost NEVER a party completely innocent here. There is always blame to be found on both sides because it is almost always giant egos fighting with each other. But here, there is never nuance, it is always the woman sucks and the poor man we had a crush on 10 years ago because he was hot in that movie that one time is innocent.

Just bumping my post here from page 14, as I come back in light of this decisive Lively victory today. And I have been gone for HUNDREDS of pages so I'm hardly obsessed but I'm not surprised to come back to it on page 807!

Wow, you really had that post handy considering you haven’t been here for hundreds of pages!

Not much effort to remember the number 14 or get to the 14th page of a thread haha

You memorize what page you made a comment on? Wow. Impressive

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

Good point. I’m curious what she’ll do. Again, I think she should take this win and try to shut down this mess

And surely if she should listen to anyone, she should listen to you, a Baldoni supporter who has been arguing that she should settle even before this devastating dismissal opinion was issued. Only you have her best interests, and the interests of other victims of retaliatory defamation claims, in mind right now. Godspeed!

[Anonymous]

CNN: A judge on Monday dismissed Justin Baldoni’s $400 million defamation lawsuit against Hollywood power couple Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds, a major development in the ongoing civil litigation between former co-stars Lively and Baldoni.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

It sounds like HIS team gave him terrible guidance.

How so? He came out swinging and reset the conversation quite a bit. If I had just read that article, I would have thought he was a total creep. I have had random people send me the snark tik toks on Blake. People who are as liberal as they come and not misogynists. She misplayed this here, and a lot of people don’t like her now. I think you can admit that. If she had a legit claim, she should have brought it forward using Normal channels and not leaked a one sided piece to the NYT

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

Good point. I’m curious what she’ll do. Again, I think she should take this win and try to shut down this mess

"this mess" = the wake of devastation Judge Liman has left to male feminist Justin Baldoni's claims against the person he is charged with harassing

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

Good point. I’m curious what she’ll do. Again, I think she should take this win and try to shut down this mess

And surely if she should listen to anyone, she should listen to you, a Baldoni supporter who has been arguing that she should settle even before this devastating dismissal opinion was issued. Only you have her best interests, and the interests of other victims of retaliatory defamation claims, in mind right now. Godspeed!

If you can’t admit this case has been awful for her, I don’t know what to say to you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But surely what Gottlieb really regrets now is that he has provided Freedman a roadmap for his remaining two claims instead of refraining to file any MTD at all. So I guess he sent them to the grocery store for milk, or the hardware store for nails, or something like that, and surely has deep regrets because although Gottlieb was able to obtain nearly everything on his list, now Freedman knows what’s on his list, or something like that.

Is this sarcastic? I think this was a good day for Lively but I think overall this case has been horrible for her, and I think a trial would be a big mistake. I think the Lively people on here will snark, but I objectively think this would be a great opportunity for her to push for a settlement and try to end this mess that she shouldn’t have started. And no, I’m not saying for 400 million. Maybe that each agree to withdraw claims and release a joint statement and donate a sum to some NFP. Unfortunately I wonder if her team is giving her smart guidance though

What’s most important is what she does next regarding 47.1. The judge denied her damages but said she can file a formal motion. If she chooses to do so and damages are granted, I believe WF will appeal and it’ll eventually make its way to the Supreme Court. Imo lively should not do this because she shouldn’t want to be known as the woman who destroyed this law, but I think it will happen eventually with some other case if not this one.

Good point. I’m curious what she’ll do. Again, I think she should take this win and try to shut down this mess

"this mess" = the wake of devastation Judge Liman has left to male feminist Justin Baldoni's claims against the person he is charged with harassing

Not sure what you mean. I don’t think all claims were dismissed, were they? And I don’t think he ruled on the veracity of her claims, only that her statements fell under privilege. Or am I missing something?