What $$ incentives do companies have to promote dei?

[Anonymous]

Are there financial incentives to promote dei? I work for a large org. I am mixed race poc (asian). I clearly look like a poc and am not white passing. I attend mandatory trainings and frankly find them offensive.

We are told that when we interview for candidates and narrow down our top 3, that we must make sure one is a poc. They used another word like meets diversity and equity criteria but then went on about how the org is really pushing recruitment from historically black colleges. The unsaid message was hire a black person. What about asians? What about Arabs? What about people with other types of diversity such as disability or sex? What about reverse discrimination against whites?

In the past I was openly discriminated years ago during a job interview. It was 15 yrs ago before this whole thing and I was younger and frankly mortified to be asked racially charged questions about my race and ethnicity. But I have a real problem choosing a candidate bc they check a box. I want to hire the best person for the job.

Even as a mixed poc person I find the whole thing unsettling. Thoughts? How do white people feel? Also someone at my org posted a criticism of dei on their social media page (stupid move) and got fired within three days based directly on the post. Even though they didn't name the employer. I personally never post inflammatory stuff on social media. But i wonder if everyone is truly drinking kool-aid.

I do value diversity. But I don't want to be hired bc I check a box. Flip side is I'm a Director and I work with lots of white people. One white person in particular has said that ethnic people are only getting hired bc they are ethnic. Her choice of words were ethnic. I found that offensive and wonders what she thought about me. I got my job bc I had certain certs and qualifications specific to my industry. I got the job on my own merits. Not bc I checked a box.

Anyway I just wish we could be colour blind and not have corporations force things on us.

[Anonymous]

The incentive they have is that research shows that better diversity = better performance and profits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The incentive they have is that research shows that better diversity = better performance and profits.

This is regurgitated often, but is patently untrue. Show me that research-you can't.

[Anonymous]

FHFA at Fannie, Freddie and CSS put D&I on the annual score card to gauge progress and employee bonuses can get cut if you hire to many white people.

[Anonymous]

OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

[Anonymous]

This piece points out that the research suggests that diversity improves performance only when the business has a culture combining diversity with learning.
https://hbr.org/2020/11/getting-serious-about-diversity

This meta study finds diversity improves performance in healthcare
https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.ucdenver.edu/docs/librariesprovider68/default-document-library/jmna-articles-bonuscontent-2.pdf&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwi13vmYtf-FAxU7EVkFHaZaASgQFnoECAsQAg&usg=AOvVaw2IpVN68yI_OFEOHdl4ql-4

This article cites several studies laying out the conditions under which diversity improves performance.
https://www.inc.com/greg-satell/science-says-diversity-can-make-your-team-more-productive-but-not-without-effort.html

[Anonymous]

I’d document in writing that you don’t agree with racist hiring processes. Then hire the best person for the job. You don’t want to be named in the next racism lawsuit and be complicit with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

I mean really? Best? There is 1 best person for the job? That’s kind of myopic thinking.

[Anonymous]

Diversity in hiring is the right priority, even if the solutions are not always implemented perfectly. Try to become a leader in how to do better. Join the employee resource groups and affect change if this is an area you are passionate about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

Nobody is mandating hiring unqualified people.

If you announce a job and only white makes show up to interview you might want to announce jobs in a way that is going to get you more, diverse people to interview to increase your chances of finding highly qualified staff.

Thats it, that’s what diverse hiring is about. It means stop limiting your announcements to low diverse areas.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

You’re kind of proving why it’s necessary with this example. When you had racially diverse candidates to interview, you made racially diverse hiring decisions based on qualifications. This is exactly why there is a push to get more racially diverse groups into the interview pool. No, this is not always executed perfectly but it does not mean we should just give up.

[Anonymous]

How do people get these high positions and they’re so incredibly uneducated? OP were you a “diversity” hire perhaps they could’ve hired a qualified person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

Nobody is mandating hiring unqualified people.

If you announce a job and only white makes show up to interview you might want to announce jobs in a way that is going to get you more, diverse people to interview to increase your chances of finding highly qualified staff.

Thats it, that’s what diverse hiring is about. It means stop limiting your announcements to low diverse areas.

How do you change a job posting to make white men not apply?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d document in writing that you don’t agree with racist hiring processes. Then hire the best person for the job. You don’t want to be named in the next racism lawsuit and be complicit with that.

There’s plenty of research that letting people “hire the best person for the job” can all too often overlap with “racist hiring processes”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. At my old org about three yrs ago prior to dei. I had three openings. I interviewed several candidates for the three roles. I ended up hiring one white person and two black people. I didn't hire them bc they were white or black. I hired them bc they were competent, met my certification requirements and were polished in the interview. I had quite a few choices to hire other people who were white, and one was latino. But i just chose to go with the best. Don't really care what the colour of your skin is.

I just think it's very controlling to have orgs mandate things. Just let us choose the best. candidate. I also think dei and the consequences of not drinking the koolaid seems borderline flirting with neo-marxism.

Nobody is mandating hiring unqualified people.

If you announce a job and only white makes show up to interview you might want to announce jobs in a way that is going to get you more, diverse people to interview to increase your chances of finding highly qualified staff.

Thats it, that’s what diverse hiring is about. It means stop limiting your announcements to low diverse areas.

What if the job is one that diverse people aren't interested in? If I post an opening for a licensed electrician and only white males show up, is there a pool of diverse people out there with this skillset that was missed?