Principal placement vs committee placement

Anonymous
Hello All,
I was wondering is there any significant difference between the Principal placement vs committee placement . The former seems to be an easier process with no parent effort .
Anonymous
I believe the biggest differences are that you can’t be principal placed at a center and that principal placement is not a set status - could change from one year to another or for certain subjects. Not even all local IVs do principal placed.
Anonymous
Principal placement isn't an option that you can choose instead of committee placement, it's a route that is open in limited situations if you *haven't* been committee placed. And, as the pp notes, there's no guarantee of placement from one year to the next if principal placed. Basically, principal placed kids are there to fill out seat requirements in Local Level IV classrooms 🤷
Anonymous
Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.


This is really what I have observed.
Anonymous
No principal placement in middle school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
It means your kid gets into AAP, no?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
It means your kid gets into AAP, no?


No, it means for one school year they are sitting in an AAP classroom. The following year it may not continue, based on classroom sizes and needs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
It means your kid gets into AAP, no?


No, as the PP said, it means that the Principal places your child in the LLIV classroom. If another child is accepted into AAP or an AAP eligible child moves tot eh school, the seat that your child is sitting in may be given to that child that is committtee placed.

It also means that your child does not have a seat in MS. Principal placed LLIV students are not eligible for LIV services in MS.

The only way to guarantee a seat in ES LIV/LLIV is to be committee placed. The only way to participate in LIV in MS is the be committee placed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I believe the biggest differences are that you can’t be principal placed at a center and that principal placement is not a set status - could change from one year to another or for certain subjects. Not even all local IVs do principal placed.


You can be principal placed at a center. Our center has some grades where there is space and kids are absolutely principal placed. I think it might be harder in the grades that are fuller, though, whereas kids at non-centers may have the option in every grade. So at our center I know principal placed kids (as in their parents told me they were principal placed, I am not guessing) in 4th and 5th but none in 6th, which has a much bigger full-time AAP cohort. I think the hope to keep as many full time AAP teachers as were had for 6th might have driven the principal placing in the younger grades. If it fills up again then they will probably stop.

But yes you can lose principal placing eligibility. I also know people who opted out of it after one year, but I know people who opted out of full-time AAP also.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
It means your kid gets into AAP, no?


No, it means for one school year they are sitting in an AAP classroom. The following year it may not continue, based on classroom sizes and needs.
So then just get your DC principal placed every year?
Anonymous
If principal placed in ES, they will not be AAP for middle school then, right?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If principal placed in ES, they will not be AAP for middle school then, right?


Correct. You have to be committee placed for MS AAP
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Principal placement means nothing. It just means you donated money to the PTA. Or ran their fundraisers.
It means your kid gets into AAP, no?


No, it means for one school year they are sitting in an AAP classroom. The following year it may not continue, based on classroom sizes and needs.
So then just get your DC principal placed every year?


If your child does not do well on iReadys or SOLs, theycould be placed in the regular classroom. If a child moves into the school and is determined to be LIV placed by the committee, that child cantake your child’s seat in the class.

Kids are removed. I have a friend whose child has been in and out of the LLIV classroom in ES, she has been principal placed twice and removed twice.
Anonymous
Principal placement at doesn’t happen at all in the majority of centers and is supposed to be reserved for very rare situations.

Center teacher allocations are based on the number of full time eligible students, so adding in principal placed kids isn’t going to keep a teacher from getting destaffed.

My center has principal placed ONE kid in the 5+ years I’ve been there.

If a center school is doing a lot of principal placement— unless it’s a situation where the center school isn’t able to fill a single full time class at a grade level— that’s weird.
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