SLAC with strong ED numbers that aren't 35% athletes

[Anonymous]

I have a A-/B+ student who likes schools like Bowdoin, Williams. Good EC and coming from very strong private HS, but will need ED boost, I think.

Only thing is I can't find how many of these ED kids are athletic recruits. A 30% ED admit rates is pretty meaningless if I dont know how many of these are athletic recruits.

anyone have either data on ED athletic recruits OR some ideas of colleges that we should look at?

[Anonymous]

Williams is notorious for an impossible admit unless a recruited athlete. Unfortunately a disproportionate share of admits at most SLACs are recruited athletes. Pitzer has few athletic recruits for a SLAC.

[Anonymous]

I think all the lacs are pretty similar. About 30 pct of the class is gonna be athletes but not all recruited. Yes, a lot of athletes in ED round but still it confers an edge.

With non-stellar transcript, assuming unhooked, Bowdoins of the world will be very difficult. My DC was quite similar. Maybe aim high ED1 if you want but aim lower ED2. We did exactly that and DC is very happy at ED2 school. In retrospect we are very happy DC didn’t land at ED1 school even though it ranks higher, for various reasons.

[Anonymous]

So, if you really want to game this out, figure out how many varsity athletes are at each school (there’s a government website that has this info, but many schools have it on their websites), divide by four, and then subtract that number from the number of ED admissions.

[Anonymous]

The Claremont colleges all have fewer recruited athletes because they form combined teams. Otherwise, every SLAC has a lot of recruited athletes. The bigger the school, the more spots for non-athletes, so look at the bigger SLACs: Midd, Wesleyan, Skidmore, and the pseudo-SLACs: Bucknell, Colgate, Lafayette. .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, if you really want to game this out, figure out how many varsity athletes are at each school (there’s a government website that has this info, but many schools have it on their websites), divide by four, and then subtract that number from the number of ED admissions.

Not all varsity athletes at SLACs are recruited. As many as half may be walk-ons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a A-/B+ student who likes schools like Bowdoin, Williams. Good EC and coming from very strong private HS, but will need ED boost, I think.

Only thing is I can't find how many of these ED kids are athletic recruits. A 30% ED admit rates is pretty meaningless if I dont know how many of these are athletic recruits.

anyone have either data on ED athletic recruits OR some ideas of colleges that we should look at?

65% are NOT athletes. Sounds like your DC is in that category. Play to strengths and don't worry about the athletes. All of the selective academic SLACs have them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if you really want to game this out, figure out how many varsity athletes are at each school (there’s a government website that has this info, but many schools have it on their websites), divide by four, and then subtract that number from the number of ED admissions.

Not all varsity athletes at SLACs are recruited. As many as half may be walk-ons.

This, or kids who may have spoken to coach but didn’t really get coach support in admissions. Probably 15 percent is a good estimate of recruited athletes so maybe 25-35 pct of ED admits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, if you really want to game this out, figure out how many varsity athletes are at each school (there’s a government website that has this info, but many schools have it on their websites), divide by four, and then subtract that number from the number of ED admissions.

OK, found the site: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/detail

I looked up Williams, which has 745 varsity athletes total, meaning ~180 freshman. Not all will be admitted ED1, but the vast majority will. Williams admits ~250 ED. So, the math there is bad! Bowdoin has about 165 freshman varsity athletes and about 280 ED admissions. Slightly better! Wesleyan (which is bigger than most other LACs) has ~185 freshman athletes but about 450 ED admissions.

[Anonymous]

colorado college?

[Anonymous]

Maybe haverford, grinnel, Kenyon,oberlin

[Anonymous]

Carleton.

Not Bowdoin, not Williams

[Anonymous]

Full pay ED at need aware school helps negate those unfortunate B+’s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So, if you really want to game this out, figure out how many varsity athletes are at each school (there’s a government website that has this info, but many schools have it on their websites), divide by four, and then subtract that number from the number of ED admissions.

OK, found the site: https://ope.ed.gov/athletics/#/institution/detail

I looked up Williams, which has 745 varsity athletes total, meaning ~180 freshman. Not all will be admitted ED1, but the vast majority will. Williams admits ~250 ED. So, the math there is bad! Bowdoin has about 165 freshman varsity athletes and about 280 ED admissions. Slightly better! Wesleyan (which is bigger than most other LACs) has ~185 freshman athletes but about 450 ED admissions.

There are typically many more freshman than seniors on a varsity team because kids drop off the team permanently each year (even recruits) due to injury, lack of playing time, academic pursuits, etc. So if 745 varsity athletes total expect more like 220 freshmen, 190 sophs, 175 juniors, 160 seniors,

[Anonymous]

Even from Sidwell or STA a B+/A- kid isn’t getting into Williams or bowdoin, even with ED full pay. A reach would be bates. More likely ED at a place like bucknell.