H5N1 and Formula

[Anonymous]

Is anyone following the H5N1 in milk news stories? The FDA/USDA are coming to the realization that this virus is widespread and found inactive virus particles it in almost 40% of the samples of store milk. They have also tested infant/toddler formulas and did not find it. Is this because the formula processing will kill even virus fragments? Or do the formula companies already pretest any milk before they manufacture? TIA

[Anonymous]

This is probably a better question for a formula manufacturer.

[Anonymous]

Follow the guidance to prepare formula with boiling water. It’s exactly for reasons like this that is the guidance— they’re only going to find out about contaminated formula once there is already a sick baby.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Follow the guidance to prepare formula with boiling water. It’s exactly for reasons like this that is the guidance— they’re only going to find out about contaminated formula once there is already a sick baby.

The guidance on boiling the water is to get rid of any contamination in the water itself, not the formula. The guidance is to boil the water, let it cool for five minutes and then to add in the formula. That will not kill anything in the formula itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Follow the guidance to prepare formula with boiling water. It’s exactly for reasons like this that is the guidance— they’re only going to find out about contaminated formula once there is already a sick baby.

The guidance on boiling the water is to get rid of any contamination in the water itself, not the formula. The guidance is to boil the water, let it cool for five minutes and then to add in the formula. That will not kill anything in the formula itself.

That’s not true, here is the guidance the CDC put out for high risk during the cronobacter outbreak, and preparing with boiling water was recommended for high risk children:

https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/pdf/Cronobacter-prevention-infographic-html.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Follow the guidance to prepare formula with boiling water. It’s exactly for reasons like this that is the guidance— they’re only going to find out about contaminated formula once there is already a sick baby.

The guidance on boiling the water is to get rid of any contamination in the water itself, not the formula. The guidance is to boil the water, let it cool for five minutes and then to add in the formula. That will not kill anything in the formula itself.

That’s not true, here is the guidance the CDC put out for high risk during the cronobacter outbreak, and preparing with boiling water was recommended for high risk children:

https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/pdf/Cronobacter-prevention-infographic-html.pdf

It doesn’t specifically say to boil it to kill anything in the formula. It also says to cool the boiling water for 5 minutes before adding the formula so it’s even less likely to be effective. Apparently cronobacter is killed at 158 F but truly boiling water will destroy nutrients in the formula.

Op if you are that worried you need to buy the ready to feed bottles which are sterile. And you probably don’t need toddler formula so just use something else instead of that.

[Anonymous]

For toddlers, just make sure to give them ULTRA pasteurized milk. This is the shelf-stable milk and it heats the milk for longer and higher.

We’re switching our entire family until more is known about this.

For infants, if you cannot breastfeed, look into donor milk banks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Follow the guidance to prepare formula with boiling water. It’s exactly for reasons like this that is the guidance— they’re only going to find out about contaminated formula once there is already a sick baby.

The guidance on boiling the water is to get rid of any contamination in the water itself, not the formula. The guidance is to boil the water, let it cool for five minutes and then to add in the formula. That will not kill anything in the formula itself.

That’s not true, here is the guidance the CDC put out for high risk during the cronobacter outbreak, and preparing with boiling water was recommended for high risk children:

https://www.cdc.gov/cronobacter/pdf/Cronobacter-prevention-infographic-html.pdf

It doesn’t specifically say to boil it to kill anything in the formula. It also says to cool the boiling water for 5 minutes before adding the formula so it’s even less likely to be effective. Apparently cronobacter is killed at 158 F but truly boiling water will destroy nutrients in the formula.

Op if you are that worried you need to buy the ready to feed bottles which are sterile. And you probably don’t need toddler formula so just use something else instead of that.

The ready to feed bottles are probably the safest choice right now if formula is the only option.