Lying on resume - veteran

[Anonymous]

Somebody I work with lied on their resume and stated they were working two ranks higher than they actually were. Think entry level person saying they were an O2. We only found out because of an archived government record. Are there rules for former military for something like this?

[Anonymous]

I’m not HR but I hired a vet. HR got their pay from their prior employer (military) and this sort of information would be on there. They use it to justify things like salary, service comp date and hours of leave. When they bridge years of service there’s a lot that goes into it.

Maybe your archived record wasn’t up to date.

[Anonymous]

Not sure about the implications to the military, but if you have employment applications check to see if the false info was included. Usually there is a statement about accuracy on applications. If so, fire the person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not HR but I hired a vet. HR got their pay from their prior employer (military) and this sort of information would be on there. They use it to justify things like salary, service comp date and hours of leave. When they bridge years of service there’s a lot that goes into it.

Maybe your archived record wasn’t up to date.

OP here: I don’t know what their job application said, but the resume they use on proposals (we are a contractor) has this discrepancy. It’s not just getting the years wrong. The archived record was for a promotion so I don’t know how accurate those are.

[Anonymous]

I’m confused. Do they have a college degree? That’s the only way to be an officer. Were the enlisted prior to becoming an officer?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m not HR but I hired a vet. HR got their pay from their prior employer (military) and this sort of information would be on there. They use it to justify things like salary, service comp date and hours of leave. When they bridge years of service there’s a lot that goes into it.

Maybe your archived record wasn’t up to date.

OP here: I don’t know what their job application said, but the resume they use on proposals (we are a contractor) has this discrepancy. It’s not just getting the years wrong. The archived record was for a promotion so I don’t know how accurate those are.

If your company is lying about their qualms due to his background that could be financial fraud since rates are set based on background. What do your company policies say? What does he say?

[Anonymous]

I’m the PP. The OP said he had entry level claiming he was two ranks higher at O-2.

This doesn’t make sense unless he was enlisted first.

If he wasn’t enlisted, then he would be considered an Officer Candidate (which is two ranks below O-2). In this case, he would have never been commissioned as an officer.

Something is off with the OP’s statements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP. The OP said he had entry level claiming he was two ranks higher at O-2.

This doesn’t make sense unless he was enlisted first.

If he wasn’t enlisted, then he would be considered an Officer Candidate (which is two ranks below O-2). In this case, he would have never been commissioned as an officer.

Something is off with the OP’s statements.

I think the OP clearly meant to write O-3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m the PP. The OP said he had entry level claiming he was two ranks higher at O-2.

This doesn’t make sense unless he was enlisted first.

If he wasn’t enlisted, then he would be considered an Officer Candidate (which is two ranks below O-2). In this case, he would have never been commissioned as an officer.

Something is off with the OP’s statements.

If he was an officer canidate/midshipman/cadet/whatever you consider two ranks below O2 when he left, then he isn't a veteran

[Anonymous]

0-2 is a first lieutenant, not exactly senior...something doesn't add up. Plus as PP said, this would be on the military forms submitted to prove time in service.

[Anonymous]

You can get promoted after retiring. My father left the Navy as a Lt. Commander and retired from the reserves as a Captain. Especially for specialized hard to retain roles promotions can continue

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You can get promoted after retiring. My father left the Navy as a Lt. Commander and retired from the reserves as a Captain. Especially for specialized hard to retain roles promotions can continue

But that's going from an 0-4 to a 0-5, and after a good 20 years on active duty and another 5-10 as a reservist. So not relevant here, but good for your dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You can get promoted after retiring. My father left the Navy as a Lt. Commander and retired from the reserves as a Captain. Especially for specialized hard to retain roles promotions can continue

But that's going from an 0-4 to a 0-5, and after a good 20 years on active duty and another 5-10 as a reservist. So not relevant here, but good for your dad.

OP is clearly a troll since no one is claiming to be an 02 when they are an E8 or a petty officer. Assuming they used O3 in their example, the guy could have left for the reserves and then applied for the job. Their current rank would be o3, but their discharge paperwork would show o1

[Anonymous]

Op doesn't know what they put in their app; just in their resume for bids/deals. Who really cares? Company probably trying for the higher rate

[Anonymous]

Why would someone lie and say they were an O-2, that's like a first lieutenant and very junior. This doesn't make any sense. Unless you really mess up it's like an automatic promotion from 2LT.