Tufts

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Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

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Anonymous wrote:Emory is full of MIT rejects.
Georgetown peaked in the 1980s.

MIT rejects is... generous. Emory is often home to students who weren't able to get into any other T20 schools. There is nothing wrong with that.

I agree with your second statement.

My DC got into several top schools Vanderbilt being one of them. Still chose Emory. You probably know 2 Emory students at best.

Weird choice.

A lot of Emory students are weird then.

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Emory is full of MIT rejects.
Georgetown peaked in the 1980s.

Is Cornell not full of Princeton/Northwestern rejects.
Frankly most Emory students had Duke as there top choice, but DC doesn't think to highly of Duke either.

Northwestern is full of Cornell rejects and agree that many Emory students had Duke as their top choice.

Northwestern full of Cornell rejects? Lol.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Emory or Georgetown got into the conversation but PP is right. They are better schools than Tufts, even with Tufts high stats I'm positive Tufts grads don't do better than Emory and Georgetown grads.

Tufts is perceived by many as an enviable, high-profile alternative for students that are not Ivy League material but want some level of bragging rights. Nevertheless, Tufts is an excellent school but no better and maybe worse than Georgetown and Emory. What is your choice other than Tufts, if you are a mere mortal academically and want to be in the Boston area?

I think GT and even Emory are Cornell level schools. I know a few at Cornell that couldn't get into these two schools and vise versa. When people say Ivy league material they forget Cornell and Brown are Ivys.

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As a Cornell alum I’ll be the first to say Cornell and Brown are not peers - maybe Cornell and UPenn is more like it, but Brown is at a higher ivy level.

And in terms of Tufts, it is common for applicants to be looking at and choosing between Cornell and Tufts. Very common…

Not a Cornell alum and I can confidently say Cornell is at a higher caliber than GT, Emory, and Tufts.

It's not, Tufts yes. GT and Emory...no.
Rankings like like this with med school placement that put Emory at 17 and Cornell at 25, or put GTown at 5 for wall street placement. Cornell isn't able to compete with Emory for premed and GT for business.

You think Cornell can’t compete with Emory because of some subjective ranking that had them 8 places apart? Really?

It's not subjective they used admissions and LinkedIn data to figure out which undergrads were better feeder schools. If Cornell's ivy label meant its so good then it shouldn't be struggling to beat Emory (or WashU, Or Rice, etc.). You also ignored that fact that Gtown has much better wall street placement than Cornell. I never said Emory and GT were better than Cornell, I said they were peers. Emory and GT do some things better Cornell does some things better, and there all ranked similarly.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know how Emory or Georgetown got into the conversation but PP is right. They are better schools than Tufts, even with Tufts high stats I'm positive Tufts grads don't do better than Emory and Georgetown grads.

Tufts is perceived by many as an enviable, high-profile alternative for students that are not Ivy League material but want some level of bragging rights. Nevertheless, Tufts is an excellent school but no better and maybe worse than Georgetown and Emory. What is your choice other than Tufts, if you are a mere mortal academically and want to be in the Boston area?

I think GT and even Emory are Cornell level schools. I know a few at Cornell that couldn't get into these two schools and vise versa. When people say Ivy league material they forget Cornell and Brown are Ivys.

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As a Cornell alum I’ll be the first to say Cornell and Brown are not peers - maybe Cornell and UPenn is more like it, but Brown is at a higher ivy level.

And in terms of Tufts, it is common for applicants to be looking at and choosing between Cornell and Tufts. Very common…

Not a Cornell alum and I can confidently say Cornell is at a higher caliber than GT, Emory, and Tufts.

It's not, Tufts yes. GT and Emory...no.
Rankings like like this with med school placement that put Emory at 17 and Cornell at 25, or put GTown at 5 for wall street placement. Cornell isn't able to compete with Emory for premed and GT for business.

You think Cornell can’t compete with Emory because of some subjective ranking that had them 8 places apart? Really?

It's not subjective they used admissions and LinkedIn data to figure out which undergrads were better feeder schools. If Cornell's ivy label meant its so good then it shouldn't be struggling to beat Emory (or WashU, Or Rice, etc.). You also ignored that fact that Gtown has much better wall street placement than Cornell. I never said Emory and GT were better than Cornell, I said they were peers. Emory and GT do some things better Cornell does some things better, and there all ranked similarly.

The metrics quoted above are arbitrary - meaningful to some, irrelevant to others.

The distracted tangent of this thread to relative exclusiveness of schools is really taking away from its original goal, to understand and explore the nature of Tufts. As observed by some, it is a terrific school full of intelligent students and inspiring faculty. It is in an urban adjacent setting that allows for a great combination of experiences. It is focused on its mission and the type of student who is best suited for success, therefor highly selective in admissions. It is definitely a strong choice.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

And many would argue that Cornell and Northwestern are a tier above Tufts and Emory. They're all excellent schools, but the former two have a much longer history of being top research universities and undergraduate destinations.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

And many would argue that Cornell and Northwestern are a tier above Tufts and Emory. They're all excellent schools, but the former two have a much longer history of being top research universities and undergraduate destinations.

Not even sure why these schools are even being dragged into a conversation about Tufts... funny that.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

And many would argue that Cornell and Northwestern are a tier above Tufts and Emory. They're all excellent schools, but the former two have a much longer history of being top research universities and undergraduate destinations.

Not even sure why these schools are even being dragged into a conversation about Tufts... funny that.

Uh, because the Cornell/Tufts choice is a common one - and Northwestern is often considered in the same breadth as Cornell as well (some think them peers, others think of Northwester as the backup). Agreed thay it’s unusual for an applicant to have both Northwestern and Tufts on their radar, but clearly Cornell is the common denominator. It all makes a lot of sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

And many would argue that Cornell and Northwestern are a tier above Tufts and Emory. They're all excellent schools, but the former two have a much longer history of being top research universities and undergraduate destinations.

Not even sure why these schools are even being dragged into a conversation about Tufts... funny that.

Uh, because the Cornell/Tufts choice is a common one - and Northwestern is often considered in the same breadth as Cornell as well (some think them peers, others think of Northwester as the backup). Agreed thay it’s unusual for an applicant to have both Northwestern and Tufts on their radar, but clearly Cornell is the common denominator. It all makes a lot of sense.

Interesting, because in my circles Cornell would be seen as the backup to Northwestern. No offense to Cornell; my brother and SIL and my uncle all are Cornell grads, so we have quite a lot of love for the school in our family. I'm from the Mountain West, though, so perhaps my perceptions are different than here in DMV.

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The splitting hairs in this thread is insane. These are all good schools. Depending on what you want to study one may be better than another and the cultures etc. of each vary so that may determine fit, but, my goodness, whether they go to Tufts vs Georgetown vs Cornell (or even HYPS I would argue) is not going to make or break your kid’s future.

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Anonymous wrote:The splitting hairs in this thread is insane. These are all good schools. Depending on what you want to study one may be better than another and the cultures etc. of each vary so that may determine fit, but, my goodness, whether they go to Tufts vs Georgetown vs Cornell (or even HYPS I would argue) is not going to make or break your kid’s future.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

I don’t think Brandeis and BC are at a much lower level. The big factor is that they look as if they have a strong religious and ethnic identity. They probably have high acceptance rates because only kids who are good fits for those schools apply to those schools. Aside from very ignorant kids, no kids are going to apply to those schools solely because they’re good schools in the Boston area.

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Anonymous wrote:The splitting hairs in this thread is insane. These are all good schools. Depending on what you want to study one may be better than another and the cultures etc. of each vary so that may determine fit, but, my goodness, whether they go to Tufts vs Georgetown vs Cornell (or even HYPS I would argue) is not going to make or break your kid’s future.

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Agreed. All are excellent schools that will set any serious student on a path for success. A student admitted to any of these schools should feel accomplished and their parents proud.

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Anonymous wrote:The splitting hairs in this thread is insane. These are all good schools. Depending on what you want to study one may be better than another and the cultures etc. of each vary so that may determine fit, but, my goodness, whether they go to Tufts vs Georgetown vs Cornell (or even HYPS I would argue) is not going to make or break your kid’s future.

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Agreed. All are excellent schools that will set any serious student on a path for success. A student admitted to any of these schools should feel accomplished and their parents proud.

If they apply themselves they will receive a good education surrounded by other smart students. Remember there are no honors colleges at these places because the entire school is an honors college.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe we can end this by agreeing that Cornell, NW, Tufts and Emory are all great schools and very competitive to get in to. You need high scores, top grades and sometimes extra.

GT appeals to a specific market who are much more concerned with so called prestige and not the actual quality of education. Good for people with the money to pay for test prep who come from certain feeder schools but aren’t standouts in any way.

Brandeis and BC don’t belong in the same conversation. They’re a couple levels down.

I don’t think Brandeis and BC are at a much lower level. The big factor is that they look as if they have a strong religious and ethnic identity. They probably have high acceptance rates because only kids who are good fits for those schools apply to those schools. Aside from very ignorant kids, no kids are going to apply to those schools solely because they’re good schools in the Boston area.

This makes no sense. The level of academic excellence offered by Brandeis and BC is much lower than the other colleges mentioned above. They’re easier to get admitted to for that reason.