What ever happened to Crown HS?

[Anonymous]

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

Demographics for the win!

You sure do love hiding behind your percentages. However, these numbers back up my assertion that's white people are fleeing MCPS

# white students in MCPS
2000 - 65,849
2005 - 58,780
2010 - 49,795
2015 - 47,331
2020 - 41,455

Total # MCPS kids 2000-2020
134,308 to 160,564

You could say that *all* of the students from 21 years ago have "fled" MCPS.

You could also say that while the overall MCPS population grew by 18% the white population fell by 38%. It looks to me like white people are increasingly unhappy with MCPS. The same thing happened in PG County after it introduced busing and it suffered a 50 year decline. PG used to be THE suburb to live in back in the 40s through the 70s. MoCo isn't immune to the same kind of decline especially with socialists steering the county government.

[Anonymous]

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White student number have fallen like a rock in 20 years. How else should we interpret this?

Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2000: 61%
Percent of people under 18 in the US who were white/non-Hispanic in 2020: 47%

Demographics for the win!

You sure do love hiding behind your percentages. However, these numbers back up my assertion that's white people are fleeing MCPS

# white students in MCPS
2000 - 65,849
2005 - 58,780
2010 - 49,795
2015 - 47,331
2020 - 41,455

Total # MCPS kids 2000-2020
134,308 to 160,564

You could say that *all* of the students from 21 years ago have "fled" MCPS.

You could also say that while the overall MCPS population grew by 18% the white population fell by 38%. It looks to me like white people are increasingly unhappy with MCPS. The same thing happened in PG County after it introduced busing and it suffered a 50 year decline. PG used to be THE suburb to live in back in the 40s through the 70s. MoCo isn't immune to the same kind of decline especially with socialists steering the county government.

I believe the under 5 age group for the whole country is majority minority now so this is not just an mcps specific change...and likely less related to fleeing and more related to larger Asian and Hispanic increases.

[Anonymous]

Sending anyone from QO to Wootton is a stretch (it's too far away - unless someone is jerrymandering the boundaries).

Travilah may go from Wootton to Crown, or go from Wootton to QO with some QO to Crown.

As far as pulling kids from across East 270 West to Crown, good luck with that.

I'm also waiting to see what happens if Rio gets inundated with after-school kids looking for fun. That will really change the area dynamic. Not sure how happy the management at Rio will be.

Now, if MCPS was creative, they'd move all Wootton kids into Crown; refurbish Wootton (which is really old and needs a facelift), then redraw - but I don't think they're that creative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending anyone from QO to Wootton is a stretch (it's too far away - unless someone is jerrymandering the boundaries).

Travilah may go from Wootton to Crown, or go from Wootton to QO with some QO to Crown.

As far as pulling kids from across East 270 West to Crown, good luck with that.

I'm also waiting to see what happens if Rio gets inundated with after-school kids looking for fun. That will really change the area dynamic. Not sure how happy the management at Rio will be.

Now, if MCPS was creative, they'd move all Wootton kids into Crown; refurbish Wootton (which is really old and needs a facelift), then redraw - but I don't think they're that creative.

Good news! Wootton is getting a facelift! It's right there in the CIP! Not to mention that the Board of Education held public hearings on the new CIP last night; did you testify?

Thomas S. Wootton High School Capital Project: A major capital project is planned for this school to address various building systems and programmatic needs for this school. Expenditures for this project are included in the Major Capital Projects–Secondary. Although the Board of Education requested a completion date of August 2026, the County Council delayed the expenditures and completion date by one year to August 2027. An FY 2023 appropriation is recommended to accelerate the architectural design and site funds within the Major Capital Project to address ADA and site related issues.

[Anonymous]

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You could also say that while the overall MCPS population grew by 18% the white population fell by 38%. It looks to me like white people are increasingly unhappy with MCPS. The same thing happened in PG County after it introduced busing and it suffered a 50 year decline. PG used to be THE suburb to live in back in the 40s through the 70s. MoCo isn't immune to the same kind of decline especially with socialists steering the county government.

Using your argument, we could also say that Asian-American people, Hispanic people, and Black/African-American people are increasingly happy with MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending anyone from QO to Wootton is a stretch (it's too far away - unless someone is jerrymandering the boundaries).

Travilah may go from Wootton to Crown, or go from Wootton to QO with some QO to Crown.

As far as pulling kids from across East 270 West to Crown, good luck with that.

I'm also waiting to see what happens if Rio gets inundated with after-school kids looking for fun. That will really change the area dynamic. Not sure how happy the management at Rio will be.

Now, if MCPS was creative, they'd move all Wootton kids into Crown; refurbish Wootton (which is really old and needs a facelift), then redraw - but I don't think they're that creative.

Travillah is way too far from crown. Stone mill and Dufief are much closer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending anyone from QO to Wootton is a stretch (it's too far away - unless someone is jerrymandering the boundaries).

Travilah may go from Wootton to Crown, or go from Wootton to QO with some QO to Crown.

As far as pulling kids from across East 270 West to Crown, good luck with that.

I'm also waiting to see what happens if Rio gets inundated with after-school kids looking for fun. That will really change the area dynamic. Not sure how happy the management at Rio will be.

Now, if MCPS was creative, they'd move all Wootton kids into Crown; refurbish Wootton (which is really old and needs a facelift), then redraw - but I don't think they're that creative.

Various stores at Georgetown Square next to WJ enjoy separating kids from their money. I imagine those at Rio will, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sending anyone from QO to Wootton is a stretch (it's too far away - unless someone is jerrymandering the boundaries).

Travilah may go from Wootton to Crown, or go from Wootton to QO with some QO to Crown.

As far as pulling kids from across East 270 West to Crown, good luck with that.

I'm also waiting to see what happens if Rio gets inundated with after-school kids looking for fun. That will really change the area dynamic. Not sure how happy the management at Rio will be.

Now, if MCPS was creative, they'd move all Wootton kids into Crown; refurbish Wootton (which is really old and needs a facelift), then redraw - but I don't think they're that creative.

This is timely, as many in my congregation we discussing this issue. They were discussing Darnestown transferring back to QO when Crown opens. Thoughts?

[Anonymous]

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You could also say that while the overall MCPS population grew by 18% the white population fell by 38%. It looks to me like white people are increasingly unhappy with MCPS. The same thing happened in PG County after it introduced busing and it suffered a 50 year decline. PG used to be THE suburb to live in back in the 40s through the 70s. MoCo isn't immune to the same kind of decline especially with socialists steering the county government.

Using your argument, we could also say that Asian-American people, Hispanic people, and Black/African-American people are increasingly happy with MCPS.

I know right. I mean who cares if some white folks are "fleeing" MCPS/MoCO? They are "fleeing" because of MoCo diversity, let them flee. They won't be missed. Win/win

[Anonymous]

Does MCPS usually allow juniors and seniors (or at least seniors) to stay at their current high school?

Seems cruel to make seniors change schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS usually allow juniors and seniors (or at least seniors) to stay at their current high school?

Seems cruel to make seniors change schools.

Yes, MCPS does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t know much about moving with your feet, do you?

https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/frederick-md-was-the-fastest-growing-city-in-the-dmv-last-year/65-101cc81a-f796-4725-a284-8163870239c9

People are fleeing high col areas. That's not really news. But, does it say that Frederick is getting whiter? I keep hearing people up there saying Frederick is getting more diverse, but here, you are saying that Frederick is getting whiter (related to the topic of "white people are fleeing moco").

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You don’t understand much about population dynamics. Yes, there may be fewer white students, but it’s not because people are “fleeing”. We are past the echo boom millennials being in school. Some neighborhoods (e.g. Derwood) have those empty nesters deciding to age in place. Thus not enough housing turnover for the children of those Boomers (young MC families) to purchase starter homes in MoCo. On the flip side, the birth rate for immigrant families and Hispanic families is comparatively high, and those 1st and 2nd generation families are still living in relatively dense housing.

+1 overall, white people are having less children. Are there areas around here that are getting whiter? People may be leaving due to hcol ( I did from out west), but that doesn't equate to "white people are fleeing MoCo").

https://www.statista.com/statistics/226292/us-fertility-rates-by-race-and-ethnicity/

But if you don't like how MoCo has become so diverse, I hear WV is paying people $10k to $20k to move there. I think WV is something like 90%+ white, hardly any Hispanic immigrants there. You could feel to WV.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS usually allow juniors and seniors (or at least seniors) to stay at their current high school?

Seems cruel to make seniors change schools.

Yes, MCPS does.

Juniors/Seniors or just seniors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Does MCPS usually allow juniors and seniors (or at least seniors) to stay at their current high school?

Seems cruel to make seniors change schools.

Yes, MCPS does.

Juniors/Seniors or just seniors?

For the Clarksburg-Seneca Valley-Northwest boundary change, it was: all rising seniors, all rising juniors, and rising freshmen/sophomores in Clarksburg's APPS program.