Aren't you funny. |
Can we stick to genetic and behavioral science please and leave judgments for another thread?
I’d think there is a good possibility that the genetic code to kill at any cost in a pure Pitt is diluted in many mixed breeds, but there is little way to predict this. But I’m not a scientist by any means. |
I think it’s just really hard to say. I mean look at humans—you can have one kid that looks and acts exactly like dad, another that looks and acts exactly like mom, a third that looks like dad but acts like mom, and a fourth that looks and acts like neither. Dog genetics are less complicated but similar. It’s just a roll of the dice and you don’t really know. As with people...the calmest most chill people or dogs I know are the ones where both parents are calm and chill. |
Yes. We donate thousands of dollars to each of these charities for humans: food bank, legal aid for kids in the child welfare system, a charity that helps people in developing countries build wells, schools, get immunized etc., a women’s shelter, a program for developmental disabled adults, a civil rights organization...dogs are only one of the things we care about. But back to the point, I would pay to maintain a pit mix in a shelter because I fell bad for the animal that stupid humans have created, but I would not bring one into my house with my kids. |
https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/dog-kills-illinois-toddler-after-she-crawled-too-close-to-food-bowl?fbclid=IwAR3oLzd5-YzzCt-RNtpX7kJwK0292oP2tktN7Y2Ex3ijtECexxJaTF_Kbds
And here we go again. A pit mix that had never shown signs of aggression before, killed a one-year-old who got too close to his food bowl as The sweet baby girl was just toddling in the kitchen. I posted on another thread about a friend of mine who was taking care of her father’s sweet pitbull who never showed signs of aggression, while her father was in the hospital. Dog was so sweet she was even considering adopting the dog when her father passed. One day when she was feeding it, the dog without any warning snapped and bit her in the face. Pitbull’s are sweet until they are not. I have a little miniature poodle, if he ever suddenly snaps (which is unimaginable because he’s a sweetie) I know that the damage he would inflict on me would be nowhere near as much damage as my friend got to her face. She had to get plastic surgery and she still has scars. |
That is so sad. This is what happens when society puts dogs above people. |
https://news.yahoo.com/indiana-sheriffs-deputy-dies-protecting-123504536.html
Nope. Killed by Pitbull mix. |
First of all, when pit bulls were bred this was true but, don't you thinkk that since 1800 these genes were basically bred out of it? Also, if they don't give any warning it is purely because they were punished for doing so. My pit mix certainly gives plenty of warning! |
It wasn't society that put dogs ahead of people. Most people don't understand the warnings dogs give. If anything humans believe they are better and above all. Hence the state of the climate and the extinction of many animals |
It’s this. |
See but here’s where you’re wrong. Pit bulls don’t give warnings before attack. They don’t use attack like other dogs do, attack is fun for them. They have been known to go down into the play bow that dogs do before launching themselves onto victims. Violence is what they were bred for; it’s the work that brings them joy. |
No, I don't think that because I know there has been no concerted effort to cull and breed out gameness. They continue to be the dog of choice for dogfighting, which happens a lot unfortunately. You can look at tons of breeders showing off their puppies dangling from ropes to demonstrate their gameness. Ironically, the breeders tend to be the most realistic about these dogs and they are happy to show off how aggressive and game they are. |
Would you be OK with a pit bull mix that does growl |
Most pit mixes are 100% pit but the owners are in denial. I literally ask people if they pits or pit mixes before I send my children over. You can call me crazy, I don't care. |
Using this info, we can do some rough math. Let’s say there are 35,700 Rottweilers in the us. In a 13 year span, there were 45 fatal Rottweiler attacks. So in one year, there were 45/13= 3.46 attacks. Out of 35,700 Rottweilers, that would be 3.46/35700 = 0.0097 % = one in 10,313 chance of a Rottweiler killing someone. Let’s say there are 152,678 pit/pit mixes in the us. In a 13 year span, there were 284 fatal attacks. So in one year, there are 284/13 = 21.85 attacks. Out of 152,678 pit/mixes, that would be a 21.85/152,678 = 0.014% = one in 6989 chance of a pit/pit mix killing someone. Let’s say there are 119,680 labs and Goldens in the us. And of these let’s assume 65% are labs, so 71,808. In a 13 year span, there are 9 fatal attacks. So in one year, there are 9/13 = 0.69 attacks. Out of 71,808 labs, that would be a 0.69/71,808 = 0.00096% = one in 103,723 chance of killing someone. Rottweiler - 1:10,313 chance Pit/pit mix -1:6,989 chance Lab - 1:103,723 chance Obviously this a rough calculation, but we make do with the numbers we have. Pits are ~15x more likely to fatally attack than a lab in the us. Does this mean they should banned? Rottweilers are 10 times more likely to kill someone vs a lab, but there aren’t as many people out there advocating a ban on them. How many deaths are too many? If it were one, then all dogs would be banned. In any case, it’s always helpful to have a per capita number to compare, not just absolutes. |