Would you move to Arlington or Mclean for SFH living?

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Anonymous wrote:So...let's recap.

Arlington: smaller houses, lots, better commute, better walking possibilities

McLean: bigger houses, lots, better schools, worse commute

I'll leave out the bigger question of diversity.

Many of the posts in this thread address diversity. McLean is the better option. N Arlington posters are in denial of their own bias.

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Anonymous wrote:So...let's recap.

Arlington: smaller houses, lots, better commute, better walking possibilities

McLean: bigger houses, lots, better schools, worse commute

I'll leave out the bigger question of diversity.

Many of the posts in this thread address diversity. McLean is the better option. N Arlington posters are in denial of their own bias.

Hm. I think it's still in the toss-up pile. Self-proclaimed POCs here prefer McLean. McLean is also more white based on straight demographics.

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Anonymous wrote:So...let's recap.

Arlington: smaller houses, lots, better commute, better walking possibilities

McLean: bigger houses, lots, better schools, worse commute

I'll leave out the bigger question of diversity.

Many of the posts in this thread address diversity. McLean is the better option. N Arlington posters are in denial of their own bias.

There is no obvious no single "better option" for everyone. Everyone has different preferences. Some like larger lots and privacy. Others like a more active, walkable neighborhood.

But it's a joke to say that McLean is more diverse.

Recap of public school #s (NOT including the large number of white, rich/UMC kids from McLean who attend private school):
Langley - 62.9% white + 23.8% asian (86.7%); 2.3% economically disadvantaged; 3.6% English learners
McLean - 53.7% white + 25.5% asian (79.2%); 9% ec. dis.; 9.9% EL
Yorktown - 65.5% white + 6.9% asian (72.4%); 10.8% ec. dis.; 11.7% EL
W-L - 43.9% white + 9.7% asian (53.6%); 28.9% ec. dis.; 30.5% EL

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Pimmit Hills FTW. First, last, always.

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Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.

The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.

You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?

Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.

I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.

OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".

If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100

Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.

Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".

DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.

OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).

Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?

McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...

Re-read your own post, dude.

Yes, and?

"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"

Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.

Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...

If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...

[Anonymous]

It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".

Sorry if facts bother you.

[Anonymous]

Well this thread has gone downhill fast which is not a shocker. Sorry OP. Relevant - Arlington county is hosting a panel on the African American experience in Arlington County, if anyone is interested: https://www.arlingtonva.us/events/african-american-experience-in-arlington/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

There is one poster doing this. This is why you should not make decisions based on DCUM. Hopefully the OP can take some of the overall things first shared and go visit and see what feels like a good fit for their family. As an Arlington poster, I think both can be great places to live and both have their pros and cons, as has been said many times. That is what the vast majority of people have shared.

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Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.

The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.

You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?

Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.

I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.

OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".

If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100

Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.

Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".

DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.

OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).

Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?

McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...

Arlington is more paved over than McLean overall, but there are some Arlington neighborhoods without sidewalks and some McLean neighborhoods with sidewalks. If the absence of sidewalks is a deal-breaker for you, then you may find more Arlington neighborhoods to your liking - but you have to accept the additional density and loss of green space that comes with that concentration of residents (Arlington is about 4X as dense as McLean).

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Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.

The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.

You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?

Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.

I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.

OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".

If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100

Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.

Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".

DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.

OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).

Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?

McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...

Re-read your own post, dude.

Yes, and?

"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"

Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.

Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...

If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...

What exactly is incorrect about "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington"?

16 of the top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA.
https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington

I'd say that counts as "many".

If the WalkScore website listed NA separately I'd be happy to give a more precise number.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".

Sorry if facts bother you.

When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:I find McLean more attractive. Arlington seems to be a mix of old houses built for WWII-era government workers and new McMansions that are way too big for their postage-size lots. You see some of that in McLean as well, but at least the lots are generally big enough to leave some room for a yard.

The nicer neighborhoods of McLean are way nicer looking than Arlington. The N Arlington and McLean neighborhoods that border Arlington and falls church look very similar. Then parts of south Arlington are more urban and walkable. I would not say N Arlington is a walkable area either.

You obviously have never even been to Arlington. Why are you commenting?

Hint: look at a map and see where the Metro stations are.

I’m also from NYC. Your definition and my definition of walkable may be different.

OK - let's call it "Arlington walkable".

If you want less arbitrary terms, how about this for my N Arlington neighborhood:
Walk score: 85 / 100
Transit score: 72 / 100
Bike score: 83 / 100

Regardless, many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington.

Or maybe you don't understand N v. S Arlington? Rt 50 is the dividing line. Everything N of Rt 50 (incl. 7 of 9 metro stops) is considered "North Arlington".

DP. It depends on where you live in N Arlington. I’d be lying if I said most of it is walkable. Maybe 20% of it is. The rest is the straight up suburbs. many streets don’t even have sidewalks.

OK? No one said MOST of it is walkable. But, the overall walkscore is 69 so a good portion is walkable (https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington).

Which streets in Arlington don't have sidewalks?

McLean doesn't have sidewalks...perhaps you are confusing the two...

Re-read your own post, dude.

Yes, and?

"Many of the "walkable" areas ARE in North Arlington." <> "Most of Arlington is walkable"

Except the website you provided for that 69 walk score is for both N and S Arlington... not just N Arlington.

Are you having trouble keeping up with your own information? First you claim that many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington, but that 69 number includes S Arlington stats...

If you’re gonna to provide stats, try to make sure you understand what you’re saying...

What exactly is incorrect about "many of the walkable areas are in N Arlington"?

16 of the top 20 walkable neighborhoods are in NA.
https://www.walkscore.com/VA/Arlington

I'd say that counts as "many".

If the WalkScore website listed NA separately I'd be happy to give a more precise number.

The metro line (Ballston-Rosslyn) is walkable. Your own stats show that. That area isn’t “most” of N Arlington.

The rest of N Arlington is the straight up burbs. Wavered, Cherrydale, Yorktown, Bellevue, etc is all not very walkable.

I used to live in N Arlington, and there’s no way that I’d ever lie and say that “many of N arl is walkable”. It’s not.

There’s nothing wrong with that. And it’s not a big deal but for whatever reason, you’re going out your way to give me and others the impression that it is when it’s not.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s just funny to me, the McLean posters seem very confident of their choices.

The N Arlington posters keep needing to pull stats or defend themselves when nobody asked them to.

I must say, it’s very telling.

I'm pulling stats to dispel the prior lies that McLean is "more diverse".

Sorry if facts bother you.

When someone is comparing Arlington to McLean, 99.9% of times they are comparing N.Arlington, so if you want to pull out the facts then do so for N.Arlington and not all of Arlington to skew numbers in your favor. We all know that N.Arlington is called "Upper Caucasia" for a reason.

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