If atheism is not a relgion, why they want to convert everyone!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This board has gone downhill so much since the arrival of the Christian martyr troll and the smiley face atheist troll. Those two should be locked in a room together so the rest of us can be left in peace and possibly have a civilized discussion.

That's cute that you want to attribute all negative and distracting posts down to two individuals.

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Fine, the two of them have friends. The point is that discussion in this forum has gone markedly downhill since the arrival of the Christian martyr trolls and the smiley face atheist troll(s). Their level of discourse is about the same.

And what about the OP of this thread?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This board has gone downhill so much since the arrival of the Christian martyr troll and the smiley face atheist troll. Those two should be locked in a room together so the rest of us can be left in peace and possibly have a civilized discussion.

That's cute that you want to attribute all negative and distracting posts down to two individuals.

+100

Fine, the two of them have friends. The point is that discussion in this forum has gone markedly downhill since the arrival of the Christian martyr trolls and the smiley face atheist troll(s). Their level of discourse is about the same.

And what about the OP of this thread?

One of the Christian martyr trolls that has taken over this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This board has gone downhill so much since the arrival of the Christian martyr troll and the smiley face atheist troll. Those two should be locked in a room together so the rest of us can be left in peace and possibly have a civilized discussion.

That's cute that you want to attribute all negative and distracting posts down to two individuals.

+100

Fine, the two of them have friends. The point is that discussion in this forum has gone markedly downhill since the arrival of the Christian martyr trolls and the smiley face atheist troll(s). Their level of discourse is about the same.

And what about the OP of this thread?

One of the Christian martyr trolls that has taken over this forum.

Given the English problems in this thread header, and given she’s probably also the English-challenged Redemption thread op who apparently doesn’t like Christianity very much, that seems unlikely.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been an atheist, now looking back, since I was a kindergartner in catholic school. I do not remember ever mentioning I’m an atheist to anyone that I’ve met in my life without the subject of religion being brought up first by the other person.
However, many people I’ve said it to, again after they brought up religion first, would act like I was violating their personal space as soon as I started saying what I do not believe in. If my lack of religion makes you feel uncomfortable, then why do I have to put up with you bringing up what you believe in? Seems like a huge double standard.

Your experience doesn't seem to quite fit in, if it's true that they always brought it up first, and assuming you were polite instead of insulting (which we don't know).

That's besides the point, though. This thread is about atheist jerks. Lots of religious people on this thread have acknowledged the jerks in their midst.

Surprisingly, just one atheist here seems willing to acknowledge that there are atheist jerks, and that was in the context of the egregious atheist brother-in-law who sought out and shamed a person of faith at pp's party. The rest of you (and one of you just said there are multiple of you) are intent on denying and rewriting everybody else's experiences of being attacked by an aggressive atheist jerk.

Here's the last post in the thread, so far as I can tell, that spoke to the thread topic. After that one of the atheists got threatened and started trying to derail (science & religion, ad hominems). Can we return to the topic now?

Returning to the thread topic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"A short sneer" isn't trying to covert someone.

Not unless my Aunt's "Praise Jesus" is also an attempt to convert..

Of course it is. It's saying "I'm smart and you're dumb." What else would you call it besides conversion?

A reaction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve been an atheist, now looking back, since I was a kindergartner in catholic school. I do not remember ever mentioning I’m an atheist to anyone that I’ve met in my life without the subject of religion being brought up first by the other person.
However, many people I’ve said it to, again after they brought up religion first, would act like I was violating their personal space as soon as I started saying what I do not believe in. If my lack of religion makes you feel uncomfortable, then why do I have to put up with you bringing up what you believe in? Seems like a huge double standard.

Your experience doesn't seem to quite fit in, if it's true that they always brought it up first, and assuming you were polite instead of insulting (which we don't know).

That's besides the point, though. This thread is about atheist jerks. Lots of religious people on this thread have acknowledged the jerks in their midst.

Surprisingly, just one atheist here seems willing to acknowledge that there are atheist jerks, and that was in the context of the egregious atheist brother-in-law who sought out and shamed a person of faith at pp's party. The rest of you (and one of you just said there are multiple of you) are intent on denying and rewriting everybody else's experiences of being attacked by an aggressive atheist jerk.

Here's the last post in the thread, so far as I can tell, that spoke to the thread topic. After that one of the atheists got threatened and started trying to derail (science & religion, ad hominems). Can we return to the topic now?

Still waiting

Returning to the thread topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which way would you rather your faith be tested?
Conversion attempts by atheists or suffering similar to Job?

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Interesting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Which way would you rather your faith be tested?
Conversion attempts by atheists or suffering similar to Job?

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Interesting.

Posted too soon.

Op, what if It's a test? Or what if you looked at it that way? Except for people like the BIL who just don't know when to can it.

[Anonymous]

Whose trying to convert you? If anything, it's Christians who try to mass convert people the most. How many Christian missionaries are there vs. atheist missionaries?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Whose trying to convert you? If anything, it's Christians who try to mass convert people the most. How many Christian missionaries are there vs. atheist missionaries?

Atheism tells you that when you die, no matter wha your life on earth was like, you simply no longer exist -- just as humans believe about all other living things.

CHristianity tells you that when you die, if you were good and followed the rules of Christianity and/or were "saved" (depending on which Christian sect you belong to) then you'd live in heaven eternally, worshipping god. If you were bad, you'd go to hell for eternity, sent there by God, for your misdeeds during your short time on earth.

Which one sound more like something missionaries would be needed for?

[Anonymous]

I'm so fascinated that you used the word "convert". Do you talk about your child's math teacher trying to "convert" them when they try to explain something logical in mathematics?

Trying to explain something logical to someone, or getting frustrated with people people for not thinking rationally, is not trying to "convert" them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm so fascinated that you used the word "convert". Do you talk about your child's math teacher trying to "convert" them when they try to explain something logical in mathematics?

Trying to explain something logical to someone, or getting frustrated with people people for not thinking rationally, is not trying to "convert" them.

Could be OP thinks that if someone answers "What religion are you?" with "no religion, I'm an atheist" that it's an attempt to convert.

Or that when OP says something like "Let me tell you about Christianity", the person responds with "No thank you - I know about it and prefer being an atheist."

Also, could be that when confronted with such a response from such a normal-looking person, OP is perplexed and wants to know more and sees this as trickery on the part of the atheist -- perhaps the work of the devil, even though the atheist doesn't believe in the devil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so fascinated that you used the word "convert". Do you talk about your child's math teacher trying to "convert" them when they try to explain something logical in mathematics?

Trying to explain something logical to someone, or getting frustrated with people people for not thinking rationally, is not trying to "convert" them.

Could be OP thinks that if someone answers "What religion are you?" with "no religion, I'm an atheist" that it's an attempt to convert.

Or that when OP says something like "Let me tell you about Christianity", the person responds with "No thank you - I know about it and prefer being an atheist."

Also, could be that when confronted with such a response from such a normal-looking person, OP is perplexed and wants to know more and sees this as trickery on the part of the atheist -- perhaps the work of the devil, even though the atheist doesn't believe in the devil.

OP is not Christian. Same English issues as with the anti-Christian “Redemption” thread.

Whatever OP is, she’s referring to the fact that atheists on DCUM often insult religion and she’s calling these insults “conversion” attempts. Unfortunately, we all know that the issue goes much further that merely stating “I’m an atheist.” OP is undoubtedly referring to the constant insults about fairytales, Christofacism, the jerk BIL mentioned above, and so much more. Then there are the endless derailment attempts that involve, for example, whining all over a thread re “What would you do if you were God for a day?” about how the moderator deleted your post calling religion fairytales on that same thread. (Why did you/that poster keep whining there instead of starting your own dedicated thread to air your concerns about freedom of speech, like you were told? Your problem wasn’t anything high-minded about freedom of speech, it was derailment pure and simple.)

You’d obviously like to believe that merely saying “I’m an atheist” is the beginning and end of the issue. But I doubt very much OP (or anybody else) is much threatened by somebody saying “I’m an atheist.” It’s the constant stream of real insults.

Are insults the same as “conversion attempts”? Not sure I care about the semantics. I know what OP means about the constant insults, though.

I guess I’d agree that saying “you’re an idiot for believing XYZ” (where XYX=Trump/Warren/climate change/religion) is a form of trying to change somebody’s mind. A crude form of persuasion of the type used Magats, but a form of persuasion.

[Anonymous]

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OP is not Christian. Same English issues as with the anti-Christian “Redemption” thread.

Whatever OP is, she’s referring to the fact that atheists on DCUM often insult religion and she’s calling these insults “conversion” attempts. Unfortunately, we all know that the issue goes much further that merely stating “I’m an atheist.” OP is undoubtedly referring to the constant insults about fairytales, Christofacism, the jerk BIL mentioned above, and so much more. Then there are the endless derailment attempts that involve, for example, whining all over a thread re “What would you do if you were God for a day?” about how the moderator deleted your post calling religion fairytales on that same thread. (Why did you/that poster keep whining there instead of starting your own dedicated thread to air your concerns about freedom of speech, like you were told? Your problem wasn’t anything high-minded about freedom of speech, it was derailment pure and simple.)

I am not the PP, but I may be the poster you are again accusing of calling your religion "fairytales" even though I did not do that. I did have several thoughtful posts deleted and complained about that. But please note the poster you are replying to is not the same as I.

"derailment" = "any position that disagrees with mine" I guess. My posts were totally on topic but not in line with the echo-chamber you desire.

[Anonymous]

To answer the original question:

It's not an atheist thing or a Christian thing. It's a people thing. Some people simply want to share what they believe to be the truth with others so they too can enjoy the wonderful life one is living within their belief system.

Others, on the other hand, are more private about their religious or nonreligious beliefs.

Seems like you have simply run into some atheists who would like to share with you. Not unusual. One runs into Christians with the same idea all the time.