I support giving permanent status for DACA recipients only if...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90% of America thinks the dreamers should stay, without special conditions. so I'm not sure you are in a position to get special conditions.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

Lol fake news. Latina here strongly AGAINST DACA and I am not the only one.

Well goody for you Latina. I know many, MANY people who support it. South Americans, Latinos, Whites . . .

All you morally superior types have no business casting stones. I bet you speed, have broken other laws. Must be nice to be so judgmental based on the luck of having been born here (for most of the people commenting).

These DACA folks came her through no fault of their own. This is their home. Yes, they should stay. Even if they are here illegally, we have a moral obligation to let them stay. You can't seriously think breaking up families or sending people who lived here their entire lives, paid taxes, work, etc. should be sent back to some place they don't know and haven't lived. If you do, simply put, you are an awful, fucking person.

not latina above, but no, i haven't sped or broke other laws. speeding is not comparable to coming here (or anywhere else) illegally anyway.

and there is nothing wrong about being lucky. some people are beautiful, some are tall and skinny, some are highly intelligent or have parents who live to old age.... everyone is lucky in some way and unlucky in others. some were lucky to immigrate to the US, others aren't.

[Anonymous]

There's a difference between being lucky to get somewhere versus pulling the ladder up behind yourself once you've gotten there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90% of America thinks the dreamers should stay, without special conditions. so I'm not sure you are in a position to get special conditions.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

Lol fake news. Latina here strongly AGAINST DACA and I am not the only one.

Well goody for you Latina. I know many, MANY people who support it. South Americans, Latinos, Whites . . .

All you morally superior types have no business casting stones. I bet you speed, have broken other laws. Must be nice to be so judgmental based on the luck of having been born here (for most of the people commenting).

These DACA folks came her through no fault of their own. This is their home. Yes, they should stay. Even if they are here illegally, we have a moral obligation to let them stay. You can't seriously think breaking up families or sending people who lived here their entire lives, paid taxes, work, etc. should be sent back to some place they don't know and haven't lived. If you do, simply put, you are an awful, fucking person.

Our moral obligations are to those already here and those who want to immigrate legally first and foremost. If you want to be angry at some one over the situation, be angry at their parents that created this mess for their children. They are awful fucking people for doing this to their own families. It's disgusting to try to shift the responsibility of the actions of others onto citizens who had no part in this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90% of America thinks the dreamers should stay, without special conditions. so I'm not sure you are in a position to get special conditions.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

Lol fake news. Latina here strongly AGAINST DACA and I am not the only one.

Well goody for you Latina. I know many, MANY people who support it. South Americans, Latinos, Whites . . .

All you morally superior types have no business casting stones. I bet you speed, have broken other laws. Must be nice to be so judgmental based on the luck of having been born here (for most of the people commenting).

These DACA folks came her through no fault of their own. This is their home. Yes, they should stay. Even if they are here illegally, we have a moral obligation to let them stay. You can't seriously think breaking up families or sending people who lived here their entire lives, paid taxes, work, etc. should be sent back to some place they don't know and haven't lived. If you do, simply put, you are an awful, fucking person.

I don't understand why you said this breaks up families. If parents and children are both illegal, then they both get to leave. And if we're truly talking about children or young adults, then "worked and paid taxes all their life" argument doesn't really apply.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a difference between being lucky to get somewhere versus pulling the ladder up behind yourself once you've gotten there.

no there is no diffference. I don't want to dilute my citizenship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90% of America thinks the dreamers should stay, without special conditions. so I'm not sure you are in a position to get special conditions.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

Lol fake news. Latina here strongly AGAINST DACA and I am not the only one.

Well goody for you Latina. I know many, MANY people who support it. South Americans, Latinos, Whites . . .

All you morally superior types have no business casting stones. I bet you speed, have broken other laws. Must be nice to be so judgmental based on the luck of having been born here (for most of the people commenting).

These DACA folks came her through no fault of their own. This is their home. Yes, they should stay. Even if they are here illegally, we have a moral obligation to let them stay. You can't seriously think breaking up families or sending people who lived here their entire lives, paid taxes, work, etc. should be sent back to some place they don't know and haven't lived. If you do, simply put, you are an awful, fucking person.

Our moral obligations are to those already here and those who want to immigrate legally first and foremost. If you want to be angry at some one over the situation, be angry at their parents that created this mess for their children. They are awful fucking people for doing this to their own families. It's disgusting to try to shift the responsibility of the actions of others onto citizens who had no part in this.

...and it's also disgusting for the PP above you to call people who disagree about DACA adults "awful fucking" people. You're right....the PP has more venom for American citizens than the illegal parents who blatantly disregarded American laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am very proud that 1 million people legally immigrate to America every year. I suggest that we focus on maintaining that 1 million number. So we can include DACA children in that 1 million this year, but that means that we need to greatly limit immigration elsewhere.

That sounds fair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very proud that 1 million people legally immigrate to America every year. I suggest that we focus on maintaining that 1 million number. So we can include DACA children in that 1 million this year, but that means that we need to greatly limit immigration elsewhere.

That sounds fair.

I think limiting legal immigration is on the table. And from my small sample size of international family - it is happening already. Gone are the days where you graduate in your country with a computer engineering degree and are on the next plane to America on a H1B. Visas are being limited and companies are being very cautious in hiring bc they don't want people getting here and then realizing it was a waste of company money bc the company can't get the person the visa they'd need to work.

[Anonymous]

Yeah I don't get the bleeding heart - breaking up families - argument. Reality is if you're a DACA adult, your parents came illegally. If somehow you need to leave, your illegal parents will likely also be caught up in the same raid. Not that that's happening -- this 800k isn't going anywhere - though the same can't be promised for the broader 3.5mil.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If we're going to be intellectually honest about this debate, we should remember that "they should go back to their home country" or "I want them gone" or "get them out" = Deportation Force with Elian Gonzalez style raids and apprehensions and transportation costs back to wherever. We should factor in the full cost of a Deportation Force against the public resources being used by DACA kids. Is it worth the cost?

Elian Gonzalez thing woudn't have happened if his family obeyed the law. The process in this case was followed to a T, and the court honored his father's parental rights. If you don't like the deportation force, blame his family who ignored the rulings.

And his father who wanted his son to live with him in his country of birth. Imagine that... a father thinking he had the right to raise his biological child.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very proud that 1 million people legally immigrate to America every year. I suggest that we focus on maintaining that 1 million number. So we can include DACA children in that 1 million this year, but that means that we need to greatly limit immigration elsewhere.

That sounds fair.

Not to the people who have been waiting to enter the country legally it doesn't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am very proud that 1 million people legally immigrate to America every year. I suggest that we focus on maintaining that 1 million number. So we can include DACA children in that 1 million this year, but that means that we need to greatly limit immigration elsewhere.

That sounds fair.

Yeah, amnesty a few million drains on the middle class who are illiterate in their own language to push back the citizenship & green cards of contributors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:90% of America thinks the dreamers should stay, without special conditions. so I'm not sure you are in a position to get special conditions.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/369487-poll-nearly-nine-in-10-favor-allowing-daca-recipients-to-stay

Lol fake news. Latina here strongly AGAINST DACA and I am not the only one.

Well goody for you Latina. I know many, MANY people who support it. South Americans, Latinos, Whites . . .

All you morally superior types have no business casting stones. I bet you speed, have broken other laws. Must be nice to be so judgmental based on the luck of having been born here (for most of the people commenting).

These DACA folks came her through no fault of their own. This is their home. Yes, they should stay. Even if they are here illegally, we have a moral obligation to let them stay. You can't seriously think breaking up families or sending people who lived here their entire lives, paid taxes, work, etc. should be sent back to some place they don't know and haven't lived. If you do, simply put, you are an awful, fucking person.

I don't understand why you said this breaks up families. If parents and children are both illegal, then they both get to leave. And if we're truly talking about children or young adults, then "worked and paid taxes all their life" argument doesn't really apply.

Exactly. The crying waah videos showing daca or illegal families being broken up are very stupid. They are welcome to go with their parent or relative anytime they choose. I was born in the US (i'm hispanic) but lived in my parents home country for a few years when I was 10. I loved it there and I have fond memories. As an adult I go back every year. I feel life is much much less stressed and you enjoy life more there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are a country of rules, their parents broke the law and overstayed their visa now we are rewarding the kids with citizenship. Less than 1% have joined the military if they think this country is so great why dont they serve?

I voted for Obama twice now I am ashamed of what the Democrats have become. We dont even know who these DACA kids are .. less than 4% college education and we SHUT DOWN gov for them????

Less than one percent u.s. citizens join the military so it sounds like everything's pretty much on par

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are a country of rules, their parents broke the law and overstayed their visa now we are rewarding the kids with citizenship. Less than 1% have joined the military if they think this country is so great why dont they serve?

I voted for Obama twice now I am ashamed of what the Democrats have become. We dont even know who these DACA kids are .. less than 4% college education and we SHUT DOWN gov for them????

Less than one percent u.s. citizens join the military so it sounds like everything's pretty much on par

Not really. People trying to become citizens and are asking for forgiveness for past crimes should be willing to support it more than those that were born here and just don't dislike it enough to leave (aka liberals).