APS Elementary Rankings

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Anonymous wrote:I like ATS except not as a public school. As a taxpayer I will pay for public kids doing STEM (TJ), language (Immersion) or Montessori (MPSA) because they are distinct and identifiable pedagogies. Not ATS. I respect parents who want that but that is private.

This isn't how taxes work. You don't get to pick and choose what you want to fund. hahhahahah, I'll pay for this or not that. You're funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like ATS except not as a public school. As a taxpayer I will pay for public kids doing STEM (TJ), language (Immersion) or Montessori (MPSA) because they are distinct and identifiable pedagogies. Not ATS. I respect parents who want that but that is private.

ATS has the pre-1960s pedagogy, so it meets your "distinct pedagogy" criterion.

I can't imagine what your real issue with having ATS as an option might be.

[Anonymous]

Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like ATS except not as a public school. As a taxpayer I will pay for public kids doing STEM (TJ), language (Immersion) or Montessori (MPSA) because they are distinct and identifiable pedagogies. Not ATS. I respect parents who want that but that is private.

ATS has a distinct identifiable pedagogy. It uses direct/teacher led instruction as opposed to inquiry based learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

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Anonymous wrote:These ratings systems got crap when it was all about test scores, which are typically a proxy for income level. Now they factor in diversity. So an all white school with the same test scores won’t rank as high.

ATS is able to produce high scores with diverse students because it’s a self selecting population of students.

Here we go again. ATS diversity comes from the VPI program. There are VPI programs in several APS schools and all students get into through a lottery. Yet the ATS VPI students do better than their counterparts in other schools. Also other option schools have a self selecting population but they aren’t doing as well as ATS. ATS is simply a better school.

What other schools have self selected student populations on academic rigor ? That’s literally ATS selling point, teaching stuff like it used to be taught.

It’s the combination of VPI and EVERY STUDENT there has engaged parents who want their kid there.

Yes but you are acting like there is nothing different about the school itself. My daughter’s friend was in Discovery. They moved her to ATS. Her mom told me that ATS is just much more rigorous. That’s the story you hear from parents who come from other neighborhood schools. The curriculum is more rigorous. Now whether this means anything in the long run is something else. Because even if the curriculum is more rigorous in elementary school it may not make a different in the long run.

One clear difference is the number of minutes spent on literacy in the lower grades and how they remediate kids who aren't making top scores, even without and IEP, 504, or whatever. They just do it, including 1:1 tutoring.

This. My kid got 1:1 tutoring from school and it turned things around quick.

My kid just transferred to ATS form a north Arlington elementary school and scored lower than grade level on recent test scores and was immediately put on a reading plan. Despite having a dyslexia diagnoses was never given this at previous school.

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Lol at the very concept of “Elementary Rankings.”

Which of course spurs a nine page (and counting) argument over ATS.

Never change, DCUM!

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Anonymous wrote:These ratings systems got crap when it was all about test scores, which are typically a proxy for income level. Now they factor in diversity. So an all white school with the same test scores won’t rank as high.

ATS is able to produce high scores with diverse students because it’s a self selecting population of students.

Here we go again. ATS diversity comes from the VPI program. There are VPI programs in several APS schools and all students get into through a lottery. Yet the ATS VPI students do better than their counterparts in other schools. Also other option schools have a self selecting population but they aren’t doing as well as ATS. ATS is simply a better school.

What other schools have self selected student populations on academic rigor ? That’s literally ATS selling point, teaching stuff like it used to be taught.

It’s the combination of VPI and EVERY STUDENT there has engaged parents who want their kid there.

Yes but you are acting like there is nothing different about the school itself. My daughter’s friend was in Discovery. They moved her to ATS. Her mom told me that ATS is just much more rigorous. That’s the story you hear from parents who come from other neighborhood schools. The curriculum is more rigorous. Now whether this means anything in the long run is something else. Because even if the curriculum is more rigorous in elementary school it may not make a different in the long run.

One clear difference is the number of minutes spent on literacy in the lower grades and how they remediate kids who aren't making top scores, even without and IEP, 504, or whatever. They just do it, including 1:1 tutoring.

This. My kid got 1:1 tutoring from school and it turned things around quick.

My kid just transferred to ATS form a north Arlington elementary school and scored lower than grade level on recent test scores and was immediately put on a reading plan. Despite having a dyslexia diagnoses was never given this at previous school.

this could be because of the new state law not ATS

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Anonymous wrote:These ratings systems got crap when it was all about test scores, which are typically a proxy for income level. Now they factor in diversity. So an all white school with the same test scores won’t rank as high.

ATS is able to produce high scores with diverse students because it’s a self selecting population of students.

Here we go again. ATS diversity comes from the VPI program. There are VPI programs in several APS schools and all students get into through a lottery. Yet the ATS VPI students do better than their counterparts in other schools. Also other option schools have a self selecting population but they aren’t doing as well as ATS. ATS is simply a better school.

What other schools have self selected student populations on academic rigor ? That’s literally ATS selling point, teaching stuff like it used to be taught.

It’s the combination of VPI and EVERY STUDENT there has engaged parents who want their kid there.

Yes but you are acting like there is nothing different about the school itself. My daughter’s friend was in Discovery. They moved her to ATS. Her mom told me that ATS is just much more rigorous. That’s the story you hear from parents who come from other neighborhood schools. The curriculum is more rigorous. Now whether this means anything in the long run is something else. Because even if the curriculum is more rigorous in elementary school it may not make a different in the long run.

One clear difference is the number of minutes spent on literacy in the lower grades and how they remediate kids who aren't making top scores, even without and IEP, 504, or whatever. They just do it, including 1:1 tutoring.

This. My kid got 1:1 tutoring from school and it turned things around quick.

My kid just transferred to ATS form a north Arlington elementary school and scored lower than grade level on recent test scores and was immediately put on a reading plan. Despite having a dyslexia diagnoses was never given this at previous school.

this could be because of the new state law not ATS

Disagree. I bet I can name it in three guesses. Cardinal? Nottingham? Arlington Science Focus? Guesses in that order.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

(whispering) ATS parents tilt conservative.

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Anonymous wrote:These ratings systems got crap when it was all about test scores, which are typically a proxy for income level. Now they factor in diversity. So an all white school with the same test scores won’t rank as high.

ATS is able to produce high scores with diverse students because it’s a self selecting population of students.

Here we go again. ATS diversity comes from the VPI program. There are VPI programs in several APS schools and all students get into through a lottery. Yet the ATS VPI students do better than their counterparts in other schools. Also other option schools have a self selecting population but they aren’t doing as well as ATS. ATS is simply a better school.

What other schools have self selected student populations on academic rigor ? That’s literally ATS selling point, teaching stuff like it used to be taught.

It’s the combination of VPI and EVERY STUDENT there has engaged parents who want their kid there.

Yes but you are acting like there is nothing different about the school itself. My daughter’s friend was in Discovery. They moved her to ATS. Her mom told me that ATS is just much more rigorous. That’s the story you hear from parents who come from other neighborhood schools. The curriculum is more rigorous. Now whether this means anything in the long run is something else. Because even if the curriculum is more rigorous in elementary school it may not make a different in the long run.

One clear difference is the number of minutes spent on literacy in the lower grades and how they remediate kids who aren't making top scores, even without and IEP, 504, or whatever. They just do it, including 1:1 tutoring.

This. My kid got 1:1 tutoring from school and it turned things around quick.

My kid just transferred to ATS form a north Arlington elementary school and scored lower than grade level on recent test scores and was immediately put on a reading plan. Despite having a dyslexia diagnoses was never given this at previous school.

you are quoting me and I am so happy for you. Their reading interventionists are amazing. Shout out to Honorifics. AM, AB, AC and I'm forgetting one, probably b/c their name doesn't begin with A.

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Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

Except the Arlington Dems types tend to hate ATS.

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Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

(whispering) ATS parents tilt conservative.

Not my experience at ATS.

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Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

(whispering) ATS parents tilt conservative.

Not my experience at ATS.

Not my experience either but people who don’t have kids at ATS love to act like experts on everything that is ATS. You’d think they have spies in all of the school events or something lol

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Anonymous wrote:Option schools in Arlington are the guilt free version of charters for ArlDems types. They think they’re too good for neighborhood schools but don’t want to pay for private. Enjoy, I guess!

Never connected this but that’s spot on

(whispering) ATS parents tilt conservative.

Not my experience at ATS.

Not my experience either but people who don’t have kids at ATS love to act like experts on everything that is ATS. You’d think they have spies in all of the school events or something lol

Maybe they all just found me. One was a oil/gas/energy lobbyist. One was RNC one was Navy, "big law"...that said, I do work for a thing that is considered traditional so maybe they thought I was too. I get that ppl make stuff up about ATS but we can also have our opinions and experiences. What about those parents of 4 plus kids? I'm pretty sure all those mega breeders are not liberal dems but if they are, they are doing God's work.