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Anonymous
This is based on the following data (Randomly select class did not contribute to the ranking yet. Future rankings good/bad will have their contributions): Category (%ge weight in ranking) - Data based on --------------------------------------------------------------- College Readiness (30%) - Based on 12th grade class of 2022-23 College Curriculum Breadth (10%) - Based on 12th grade classs of 2022-23 State Assessment Proficiency (20%)- Based on 2022-2023 state assessment data State Assessment Performance (20%)- Based on 2022-2023 state assessment data Underserved Student Performance (10%) - Based on 2022-2023 state assessment data Graduation Rate (10%)- Based on ninth grade in the 2019-2020 Reference: https://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings |
Anonymous
Remember last year when the rank drop to 14, y’all foaming at the mouth blaming the new admission. You need consistency. |
Anonymous
DP I've been consistently saying that USNWR is meaningless. The best measure is SAT scores, always has been. I don't know why the pro-testing crowd runs away from using test scores as a metric of how good the admissions process is. It's almost like they don't actually believe the logical conclusion of their own arguments. We don't have that data yet but the PSAT scores suggest that we can expect SAT scores at TJHSST to drop by over 100 points. Like it or not, almost every other country in the world uses a single test or a series of tests to determine who gets into which college. Like it or not, "diversity" is not common at school in most other countries. Affirmative action exists but it is not for the sake of diversity, it is to correct for social "injustice." We don't it for sociasl jsutice, we do it to get mediocre rich black immigrants like Claudine Gay into Ivy league schools to assuage a national white guilt. |
Anonymous
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“Like it or not, almost every other country in the world uses a single test or a series of tests to determine who gets into which college.
Like it or not, "diversity" is not common at school in most other countries.” Well then lucky for you there are a slew of other countries to pick from that use the model you like! |
Anonymous
Most of those countries have very specific state schools that are highly coveted. Kids who do not get into those schools end up attending "lesser" schools in their country or leave to go abroad for college. More of their kids commit suicide leading into and after the test day and results day. The pressure is kind of ridiculous and not healthy for the kids. |
Anonymous
This is not true. First of all, everyone has access to TJ is they have the merit Secondly, the low income asians at TJ are not overwhelmingly east asian as that term is generally understood (Japanese, Korean, Chinese/Taiwanese). |
Anonymous
No thank you. I will push for merit here because if America falls, we either have a war or China and Russia takes its place. |
Anonymous
The USA has a higher suicide rate among 15-19 year olds than Japan, Korea, Hong Kong, China, Singapore, France, German, UK, or Italy. Don't make the mnistake of thinking you love your children more than they love theirs. They are preparing their children for a successful life with a challenging childhood, you are giving your children an easy childhood and a hopeless life. America no longer has the same economic moat that allows mediocre americans to thrive. There's not enough demand for door dash drivers to absorb all your children, prepare them for better. |
Anonymous
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1414751/ |
Anonymous
NP. Such an odd post above. The low income asians at TJ are not South Asians. In the main, they are (geographically) SE Asians; in turn, many of those students geographically from SE Asia at TJ are really "overseas chinese" which are (at least culturally) E Asians. Sigh. |
Anonymous
You're wrong on both counts here. |
Anonymous
SAT scores are good at measuring one thing - how good a student is at taking the SAT. You can be absolutely stone-cold brilliant and be relatively unspectacular at taking the SAT - or any standardized exam - for any number of reasons. Test-taking ability (which is a requirement for essentially any timed standardized exam) has precisely *one* real-world application, and that's to get a person admitted to a selective school. There is no other value to it whatsoever to the student. Want to use them as one aspect of a broad holistic assessment to help establish a narrative about students with additional context? Sure, fine by me, as long as the scores are permanently sealed except to the admissions officers. But as long as that data is going to be abused by folks with an axe to grind, exam scores do more harm than good to institutions seeking to admit a well-balanced class that serves the interests of an elite academic environment. |
Anonymous
This is incorrect. The tiny population of low income asians are not predominantly chinese malays or anything like that. They are overwhelmingly immigrants, immigrants tend to be poor. Plenty of korean immigrants and chinese immigrants, also plenty of south asian immigrants. Not all asian immigrants are working for amazon web services. |
Anonymous
Being good at the SAT measures much more than the ability to take the SAT. There is no question about the validity of standardized testing, especially at the high end. It is rare to be "stone cold brilliant" and bad at standardized tests. Test taking ability measures cognitive ability. It's literally the reason they were invented. That "one aspect" of a broad "holistic" assessment is the ONLY assessment used in most countries (in many countries, the equivalent of AP exams are also used). Holistic assessments are only used here because it created the subjectivity necessary to keep jews out of harvard and it is used now to create the subjectivity necessary to admit people on the basis of race, gender sexuality, sexual identity, wealth, poverty, privilege and oppression. Somebody lied to you and told you tests weren't very useful and you believed them because test results were inconvenient to your narrative. |
Anonymous
Then why has Harvard gone back to test required? Along with all Ivies (test required or announced they would be test required in the near future) except Columbia? Do you know something they don't? |