Would you move for Deal and J-R?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, we had friends who were local IB EOTP all the way with all their neighborhood friends. Then they got into the charter they wanted and forgot about that IB school. All about the charter and feeding into the charter MS. Then they switched to private. WOTP. For $50k/yr.

But they still talk about how living EOTP is so cool and they love their diverse neighborhood and their neighbors.

Just not enough to send their kids to school with the neighbor kids.

This little quip-- rotely repeated hundreds of times on DCUM while thinking it's clever--shows how little you know about neighborhoods EOTP.

The first thing our new black and brown neighbors mentioned as we were unpacking our boxes was they could help us with all the info to not have to attend the neighborhood school.

So who are all those black and brown kids in the schools if no black and brown kids are going there? Your neighbors are not only awful, by the way, but your post is also bullshit because that never happened.

Keep your head up your a$$ if you don't want to believe me, but it was definitely the case on my block among my neightbors and we've had others chime in as well. Sorry it doesn't fit your comfortable little imagination of how the world works.

It never happened. You did not move into your neighborhood as a white person and have your black and brown neighborhoods immediately say "welcome to the neighborhood! here's how you avoid the schools!"

That absolutely 100 percent did not happen and you are full of shit. That's never happened to anyone who has moved into any DC neighborhood ever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, we had friends who were local IB EOTP all the way with all their neighborhood friends. Then they got into the charter they wanted and forgot about that IB school. All about the charter and feeding into the charter MS. Then they switched to private. WOTP. For $50k/yr.

But they still talk about how living EOTP is so cool and they love their diverse neighborhood and their neighbors.

Just not enough to send their kids to school with the neighbor kids.

This little quip-- rotely repeated hundreds of times on DCUM while thinking it's clever--shows how little you know about neighborhoods EOTP.

The first thing our new black and brown neighbors mentioned as we were unpacking our boxes was they could help us with all the info to not have to attend the neighborhood school.

So who are all those black and brown kids in the schools if no black and brown kids are going there? Your neighbors are not only awful, by the way, but your post is also bullshit because that never happened.

Keep your head up your a$$ if you don't want to believe me, but it was definitely the case on my block among my neightbors and we've had others chime in as well. Sorry it doesn't fit your comfortable little imagination of how the world works.

It never happened. You did not move into your neighborhood as a white person and have your black and brown neighborhoods immediately say "welcome to the neighborhood! here's how you avoid the schools!"

That absolutely 100 percent did not happen and you are full of shit. That's never happened to anyone who has moved into any DC neighborhood ever.[b]

How can you be so sure about that?

I'm a different pp but it absolutely happened to me. Not in the first conversation, but once we became friends and friendly neighbors...

My black neighbors tell me the schools they went to and where they send their kids and look very concerned when I mentioned sending me kids to the Title 1 neighborhood school. And then somewhat forcefully suggested not doing that. This isn't one conversation, this is knowing people for years and over the course of many conversations.

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the Kalorama Triangle portion of Adams Morgan (OA) or neighborhoods along CT or Wisconsin Ave that feed to Deal over Mt Pleasant. I have never understood all the Mt Pleasant praise. Geographically it feels like an isolated little island with a tiny main drag penned in by chaotic Columbia Heights. Of course, it is nice to be right on the park but to me that seems to be the sole benefit. Parts of it are quite far from metro, etc.

The “tiny main drag” offers plenty along with real city charm and isn’t the strip mall atmosphere of CT or Wisconsin Avenue. It also has far less traffic and isn’t a commuter route. And, again, it actually has racial and economic diversity.

Finally, it’s a quick walk to Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights.

You couldn’t pay me to live in Upper Caucasia. I don’t care if those neighborhoods have DC addresses. They’re the suburbs.

I don’t get the claim of ethic diversity for Mount Pleasant. Bancroft has the lowest percentage of Black kids in all of DC. How can a DC school be only 2% Black?

https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/6

Who said anything about Barcroft? The comparison was between neighborhoods, not elementary schools. In any event, how many elementary schools in Upper Caucasia are 69 percent Latino?

This is a DC school forum, not the real estate one. Of coarse it is about the schools.

[Anonymous]

If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we had friends who were local IB EOTP all the way with all their neighborhood friends. Then they got into the charter they wanted and forgot about that IB school. All about the charter and feeding into the charter MS. Then they switched to private. WOTP. For $50k/yr.

But they still talk about how living EOTP is so cool and they love their diverse neighborhood and their neighbors.

Just not enough to send their kids to school with the neighbor kids.

This little quip-- rotely repeated hundreds of times on DCUM while thinking it's clever--shows how little you know about neighborhoods EOTP.

The first thing our new black and brown neighbors mentioned as we were unpacking our boxes was they could help us with all the info to not have to attend the neighborhood school.

So who are all those black and brown kids in the schools if no black and brown kids are going there? Your neighbors are not only awful, by the way, but your post is also bullshit because that never happened.

Keep your head up your a$$ if you don't want to believe me, but it was definitely the case on my block among my neightbors and we've had others chime in as well. Sorry it doesn't fit your comfortable little imagination of how the world works.

It never happened. You did not move into your neighborhood as a white person and have your black and brown neighborhoods immediately say "welcome to the neighborhood! here's how you avoid the schools!"

That absolutely 100 percent did not happen and you are full of shit. That's never happened to anyone who has moved into any DC neighborhood ever.[b]

How can you be so sure about that?

I'm a different pp but it absolutely happened to me. Not in the first conversation, but once we became friends and friendly neighbors...

My black neighbors tell me the schools they went to and where they send their kids and look very concerned when I mentioned sending me kids to the Title 1 neighborhood school. And then somewhat forcefully suggested not doing that. This isn't one conversation, this is knowing people for years and over the course of many conversations.

And goodie for you but you’re not the poster who said it happened while they were still unpacking. THAT never happened and has never happened to anyone in DC ever. That it may have happened to you sometime down the line after already having met and gotten friendly with a neighbor or two? Maybe. But that poster is full of shit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would take the Kalorama Triangle portion of Adams Morgan (OA) or neighborhoods along CT or Wisconsin Ave that feed to Deal over Mt Pleasant. I have never understood all the Mt Pleasant praise. Geographically it feels like an isolated little island with a tiny main drag penned in by chaotic Columbia Heights. Of course, it is nice to be right on the park but to me that seems to be the sole benefit. Parts of it are quite far from metro, etc.

The “tiny main drag” offers plenty along with real city charm and isn’t the strip mall atmosphere of CT or Wisconsin Avenue. It also has far less traffic and isn’t a commuter route. And, again, it actually has racial and economic diversity.

Finally, it’s a quick walk to Adams Morgan and Columbia Heights.

You couldn’t pay me to live in Upper Caucasia. I don’t care if those neighborhoods have DC addresses. They’re the suburbs.

I don’t get the claim of ethic diversity for Mount Pleasant. Bancroft has the lowest percentage of Black kids in all of DC. How can a DC school be only 2% Black?

https://www.myschooldc.org/schools/profile/6

Who said anything about Barcroft? The comparison was between neighborhoods, not elementary schools. In any event, how many elementary schools in Upper Caucasia are 69 percent Latino?

This is a DC school forum, not the real estate one. Of coarse it is about the schools.

Nope. It’s all of the above.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

I moved from Mt P to Arlington. I think W&L is better than J-R and is pretty diverse (40% white, 35% hispanic and 8% black). I don't worry at all about my kids walking home from the metro alone in Arlington, which I could not say when I lived in Mt P. Arlington also has school buses, which I think is an advantage over DC and vastly improved our quality of life. I did not leave DC because of the crime (I left to get a shorter commute) but have really appreciated the lack of petty crime - my kids don't think twice about leaving their bikes unlocked a couple hours in front of our house, while in DC we had to lock them even when they were in our garage. The retail strips in Arlington tend to be pretty ugly, but some of the residential areas are nice and pretty and everyone is friendly and pretty down to earth - similar to Mt P. And there are a million parks and rec centers, which are generally much nicer than those in DC. Not to mention that Trump is interfering less in Arlington than in DC.

[Anonymous]

I know OP said their kids are good students with no learning issues, but our experience with a kid with mild ADHD and some social issues were abysmal. And the change of the ELA curriculum would be enough to send me running away from DCPS if we hadn't already opted out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we had friends who were local IB EOTP all the way with all their neighborhood friends. Then they got into the charter they wanted and forgot about that IB school. All about the charter and feeding into the charter MS. Then they switched to private. WOTP. For $50k/yr.

But they still talk about how living EOTP is so cool and they love their diverse neighborhood and their neighbors.

Just not enough to send their kids to school with the neighbor kids.

This little quip-- rotely repeated hundreds of times on DCUM while thinking it's clever--shows how little you know about neighborhoods EOTP.

The first thing our new black and brown neighbors mentioned as we were unpacking our boxes was they could help us with all the info to not have to attend the neighborhood school.

So who are all those black and brown kids in the schools if no black and brown kids are going there? Your neighbors are not only awful, by the way, but your post is also bullshit because that never happened.

Why are you being obtuse? It’s the poor, low SES black and brown kids.

No one said there is no black kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

I moved from Mt P to Arlington. I think W&L is better than J-R and is pretty diverse (40% white, 35% hispanic and 8% black). I don't worry at all about my kids walking home from the metro alone in Arlington, which I could not say when I lived in Mt P. Arlington also has school buses, which I think is an advantage over DC and vastly improved our quality of life. I did not leave DC because of the crime (I left to get a shorter commute) but have really appreciated the lack of petty crime - my kids don't think twice about leaving their bikes unlocked a couple hours in front of our house, while in DC we had to lock them even when they were in our garage. The retail strips in Arlington tend to be pretty ugly, but some of the residential areas are nice and pretty and everyone is friendly and pretty down to earth - similar to Mt P. And there are a million parks and rec centers, which are generally much nicer than those in DC. Not to mention that Trump is interfering less in Arlington than in DC.

I know your neighborhood well, and the only thing I’d agree with is that W-L is probably a better school. You moved to the suburbs. That’s what you did. There’s just no comparison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

I moved from Mt P to Arlington. I think W&L is better than J-R and is pretty diverse (40% white, 35% hispanic and 8% black). I don't worry at all about my kids walking home from the metro alone in Arlington, which I could not say when I lived in Mt P. Arlington also has school buses, which I think is an advantage over DC and vastly improved our quality of life. I did not leave DC because of the crime (I left to get a shorter commute) but have really appreciated the lack of petty crime - my kids don't think twice about leaving their bikes unlocked a couple hours in front of our house, while in DC we had to lock them even when they were in our garage. The retail strips in Arlington tend to be pretty ugly, but some of the residential areas are nice and pretty and everyone is friendly and pretty down to earth - similar to Mt P. And there are a million parks and rec centers, which are generally much nicer than those in DC. Not to mention that Trump is interfering less in Arlington than in DC.

This is helpful. What's your middle school and are/were you happy with it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

How are the MSs and HSs in Arlington? Are parents scrambling to cobble together a charter or application HS (maybe? lottery anyone?) or are there reliable decent MS and HS paths?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, we had friends who were local IB EOTP all the way with all their neighborhood friends. Then they got into the charter they wanted and forgot about that IB school. All about the charter and feeding into the charter MS. Then they switched to private. WOTP. For $50k/yr.

But they still talk about how living EOTP is so cool and they love their diverse neighborhood and their neighbors.

Just not enough to send their kids to school with the neighbor kids.

This little quip-- rotely repeated hundreds of times on DCUM while thinking it's clever--shows how little you know about neighborhoods EOTP.

The first thing our new black and brown neighbors mentioned as we were unpacking our boxes was they could help us with all the info to not have to attend the neighborhood school.

So who are all those black and brown kids in the schools if no black and brown kids are going there? Your neighbors are not only awful, by the way, but your post is also bullshit because that never happened.

Why are you being obtuse? It’s the poor, low SES black and brown kids.

No one said there is no black kids.

And apparently, none of the people who live there want that sort of diversity in the schools where they send their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If you are moving anyway, I would seriously consider Arlington and close-in Moco. We moved from DC to Arlington and love it. Our kids' school is super diverse, with lots of great programs (robotics studio funded by Amazon, great arts program) and our neighborhood is super walkable and our commutes are shorter than they were in DC (but YMMV). Once you are moving to upper Ward 3 (or even Mt Pleasant) I feel like you end up with a lot of the downsides of city living without all the upsides. Plus you get in-state tuition to the VA schools, which is worth a lot more than DC TAG (if that survives Trump).

And what’s the downside of Mt Pleasant compared to the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington? I know both well. The schools in the more diverse neighborhoods of Arlington certainly aren’t any better and the neighborhoods aren’t nearly as pretty or walkable.

How are the MSs and HSs in Arlington? Are parents scrambling to cobble together a charter or application HS (maybe? lottery anyone?) or are there reliable decent MS and HS paths?

There are no bad schools in Arlington. It’s totally different from DC. There are also no charter schools.