2026 MCSL Division Seedings

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Anonymous wrote:Are the seedings out today?

Some parents are just obsessed and monitor all the kids, which is creepy and take the fun out of swimming.

I think a lot of parents actually want to move down divisions where it will be more fun.

It's not much more fun in the lower divisions. There are two types of parents, those who have club swimmers that are pushed to win (so that the team wins A meets), and those whose kids swim only during the summer and don't care about winning meets. This creates a bit of a tension and can tear a lower division team apart.

Not true. Over the years, we've been in B through F and and I would say the best in terms of being in the fun but still competitive sweetspot is D and E. Once you are in the top 3 divisions, it's mostly going to be year round swimmers swimming A meets.

I would argue that C is fun too. Our team’s division (which has varied over the years) really hasn’t impacted what % of non-club kids make A meets. We have some club kids who are very strong but barely make A meets because their cohort just happens to be extremely strong, and other age groups where many non-club kids are making A meets.

We are in C this year and I disagree. We were in lower divisions in the past and it was a lot more fun. This year is toxic with the competition and there are very few non-club kids making A meets other than in age groups where we don't have enough swimmers to fill lanes.

Lower divisions can be fun at B meets. At A meets, there is still pressure to win, and the few club kids who swim are often expected to rack up most of the points. That isn't very much fun for them.

Our club swimmers don't go to practices and dominate the meets. It must be fun for them or why are they doing it? If its not fun, drop out or do less and let others get to swim A meets. There should be a requirement to acutally participate in the team and do practices vs. just show up for A meets.

You should talk to your rep/team leadership to see if you can get this rule in place for your team.

This won't happen. This is the norm and has been for ages. High school swimming is the same.

So you're just here yelling at clouds, then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Division B
Bethesda
Mohican
River Falls
Darnestown
Glenwood
Flower Valley

Potomac to D

Does anyone know where CCRA ended up?

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If MCSL factored in all of PO’s excuses in the division alignment, they would be the #1 seed!

Please don't make me wet my pants!

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Anonymous wrote:Division B
Bethesda
Mohican
River Falls
Darnestown
Glenwood
Flower Valley

Potomac to D

Does anyone know where CCRA ended up?

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Division B
Bethesda
Mohican
River Falls
Darnestown
Glenwood
Flower Valley

Potomac to D

Does anyone know where CCRA ended up?

E

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So who's in F, then?

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Anonymous wrote:Curious about any other teams? I may remember some of them.

Woodley?

I think E, lost it yesterday

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Does anyone else have a copy of the divisions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are the seedings out today?

Some parents are just obsessed and monitor all the kids, which is creepy and take the fun out of swimming.

I think a lot of parents actually want to move down divisions where it will be more fun.

It's not much more fun in the lower divisions. There are two types of parents, those who have club swimmers that are pushed to win (so that the team wins A meets), and those whose kids swim only during the summer and don't care about winning meets. This creates a bit of a tension and can tear a lower division team apart.

Not true. Over the years, we've been in B through F and and I would say the best in terms of being in the fun but still competitive sweetspot is D and E. Once you are in the top 3 divisions, it's mostly going to be year round swimmers swimming A meets.

I would argue that C is fun too. Our team’s division (which has varied over the years) really hasn’t impacted what % of non-club kids make A meets. We have some club kids who are very strong but barely make A meets because their cohort just happens to be extremely strong, and other age groups where many non-club kids are making A meets.

We are in C this year and I disagree. We were in lower divisions in the past and it was a lot more fun. This year is toxic with the competition and there are very few non-club kids making A meets other than in age groups where we don't have enough swimmers to fill lanes.

Interesting, I think a lot of this stuff ends up less about what Division and more about how your own kids are spread out. Having 5-6 really good kids in the same age group can be the worst thing for team morale. We're in C this year too and have found it very pleasant and pretty friendly. (And in one team's case, very loud and spirited.)

A few years ago in a lower division, that was the worst Summer. Internal tension on the team and some nasty interactions between teams.

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I'd be interested in seeing a ranking of Summer teams broken into two groups -- pools with waitlists and pools with immediate memberships available.

There are pools with 3 and 4 year waitlists, so unless their BoD allows shenanigans, there's no transferring or recruiting happening at those places.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be interested in seeing a ranking of Summer teams broken into two groups -- pools with waitlists and pools with immediate memberships available.

There are pools with 3 and 4 year waitlists, so unless their BoD allows shenanigans, there's no transferring or recruiting happening at those places.

Or, you could accept that this is a summer league, kids want to swim with their friends, and parents want a positive and welcoming sport environment.

It’s not a competition for parents and club boards.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be interested in seeing a ranking of Summer teams broken into two groups -- pools with waitlists and pools with immediate memberships available.

There are pools with 3 and 4 year waitlists, so unless their BoD allows shenanigans, there's no transferring or recruiting happening at those places.

Or, you could accept that this is a summer league, kids want to swim with their friends, and parents want a positive and welcoming sport environment.

It’s not a competition for parents and club boards.

I think you missed my point. I think its likely that the majority of teams with immediate openings and Club coaches who bring swimmers with them are in the top divisions and the teams with waitlists where the teams are all neighborhood kids who are friends are in the middle divisions. And that's why people claim the middle/lower divisions are more fun.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else have a copy of the divisions?

Somewhere far away from DCUM, there is a swimmer/coach out there with a screenshot of what was posted!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be interested in seeing a ranking of Summer teams broken into two groups -- pools with waitlists and pools with immediate memberships available.

There are pools with 3 and 4 year waitlists, so unless their BoD allows shenanigans, there's no transferring or recruiting happening at those places.

Or, you could accept that this is a summer league, kids want to swim with their friends, and parents want a positive and welcoming sport environment.

It’s not a competition for parents and club boards.

I think you missed my point. I think its likely that the majority of teams with immediate openings and Club coaches who bring swimmers with them are in the top divisions and the teams with waitlists where the teams are all neighborhood kids who are friends are in the middle divisions. And that's why people claim the middle/lower divisions are more fun.

I think you’re getting the causation wrong. The club coaches encourage promising 7-8 year olds to join club swim and then they turn into strong 10 year olds. We’re at a pool in a top division with a club coach, and that’s exactly why we have a strong team. All the kids are from nearby neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd be interested in seeing a ranking of Summer teams broken into two groups -- pools with waitlists and pools with immediate memberships available.

There are pools with 3 and 4 year waitlists, so unless their BoD allows shenanigans, there's no transferring or recruiting happening at those places.

Or, you could accept that this is a summer league, kids want to swim with their friends, and parents want a positive and welcoming sport environment.

It’s not a competition for parents and club boards.

I think you missed my point. I think its likely that the majority of teams with immediate openings and Club coaches who bring swimmers with them are in the top divisions and the teams with waitlists where the teams are all neighborhood kids who are friends are in the middle divisions. And that's why people claim the middle/lower divisions are more fun.

I think you’re getting the causation wrong. The club coaches encourage promising 7-8 year olds to join club swim and then they turn into strong 10 year olds. We’re at a pool in a top division with a club coach, and that’s exactly why we have a strong team. All the kids are from nearby neighborhoods.

You mean like Stonegate?