The Fork is back on?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Elon is working on people’s FOMO. He knows how to mess with people to get companies at the least amount of money and to do layoffs for the least amount of severance.

You are being messed with by Elon and his hackers.

Yes, it expired. Those people may or may not be paid. You may or may not be fired.

Start looking for other employment and keep your head down. What do you have to lose? A “dream vacation” which may never be paid out?

You are getting paid regardless and have a much better shot at getting your retirement benefits and unemployment if RIF’d.


He’s messing with you. Deep breaths and keep hitting your job sites.



Some still seem to be in denial about the need to job hunt.
Anonymous
Unions screwed over everyone good luck getting fired while the 75k are Netflix and chill until October
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elon is working on people’s FOMO. He knows how to mess with people to get companies at the least amount of money and to do layoffs for the least amount of severance.

You are being messed with by Elon and his hackers.

Yes, it expired. Those people may or may not be paid. You may or may not be fired.

Start looking for other employment and keep your head down. What do you have to lose? A “dream vacation” which may never be paid out?

You are getting paid regardless and have a much better shot at getting your retirement benefits and unemployment if RIF’d.


He’s messing with you. Deep breaths and keep hitting your job sites.



Some still seem to be in denial about the need to job hunt.


White collar jobs aren’t hiring and Feds tend to run older, so ageism means you aren’t getting picked up for any professional roles. Sure a few former BigLaw can lateral back to firm, but your average Fed worker bee hitting 45? I guess they can get a job at Home Depot. A good option for some maybe teaching but that is a huge pay cut AND the hiring season is very regimented.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:65,000 took the Fork. Next comes the knife


Okay? So with each passing day the value of a fork shrinks. I don’t really care to have a “dream vacation” knowing my salary WILL end in September vs May end sometime in future. And you can’t take outside employment while forked, so what’s the advantage except being lazy?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


In reality it’s 2.5%.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Elon is working on people’s FOMO. He knows how to mess with people to get companies at the least amount of money and to do layoffs for the least amount of severance.

You are being messed with by Elon and his hackers.

Yes, it expired. Those people may or may not be paid. You may or may not be fired.

Start looking for other employment and keep your head down. What do you have to lose? A “dream vacation” which may never be paid out?

You are getting paid regardless and have a much better shot at getting your retirement benefits and unemployment if RIF’d.


He’s messing with you. Deep breaths and keep hitting your job sites.



Some still seem to be in denial about the need to job hunt.


White collar jobs aren’t hiring and Feds tend to run older, so ageism means you aren’t getting picked up for any professional roles. Sure a few former BigLaw can lateral back to firm, but your average Fed worker bee hitting 45? I guess they can get a job at Home Depot. A good option for some maybe teaching but that is a huge pay cut AND the hiring season is very regimented.


More than likely they'll just have to hire people back or bring them back as contractors in some roles depending on agency. Many jobs are actually more important than people realize. Let's say you are a software developer for SSA and they shut down your entire department and RIF everyone, who is going to maintain the code?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.


I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


Now move the decimal….
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder who got in the judge's ear? What threats were made?


You sound like a loon, truly. Why do you care about the fork offer if some people want to take it? Save your outrage for all the feds at USAID and CFPB on admin leave right now. Lots of things are being done to feds that are involuntary!


As a taxpayer, I have no interest in paying a self-selected group of people to do nothing for 8 months. If Trump wants to cut, cut based on actual performance and do it using the procedures in place. But this deal not only isn’t one I want as an employee—it also meets no interests I have as a citizen.

And yes: I have fired a Fed.


No taxpayer standing, sorry!

Anyway what you are talking about was not the basis for the lawsuit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.


I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.


Excellent! May the fork be with them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.


I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.


Excellent! May the fork be with them.


I'm not cool with paying people who were retiring anyway for 8 months of no work. Seems like waste and abuse. Why is Elon wasting taxpayer money like this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don't know why everyone is focusing on the Fork. There are bigger issues at hand. The people who took the deferred resignation offer did so willingly. The problem is with the people who are left and want to take the offer. What happens to them? What about reduction in force? Firings? Bypassing union agreements when it comes to telework and benefits? Making the work place a living hell? Monitoring our keystrokes? Work place safety? Availability of parking? People with kids who don't have alternative care arrangements... I mean the list of issues goes on and on.


+1 this is what I didn't understand all the opposition to the fork from unions, the press, general sentiment. It doesn't exist in a vacuum and we feds have to contend with the reality that there's a lot of other bad possibilities too.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.


I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.


Excellent! May the fork be with them.


I'm not cool with paying people who were retiring anyway for 8 months of no work. Seems like waste and abuse. Why is Elon wasting taxpayer money like this?


because none of this is about saving tax payer money. see the house budget proposal
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:75,000/3,000,000 = 0.025%

I think that pp saw 75,000 and just thinks "that's a big number" but in reality it's one quarter of one percent.


That’s a little off on the denominator (and your decimal place). Most articles have said ~2.3mil, so more like 3% took it. Short of their 5-10% and I assume mostly ones who were already retiring or leaving anyway.


I have the numbers at my agency, and 100% of the people who took it are also taking VERA or regular retirement.


Excellent! May the fork be with them.


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