Student Reveals That Stanford Rescinded College Offer Months After Due To A ‘Lie’ On Her Application

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Anonymous wrote:Why would they check this AFTER accepting her? That doesn't make sense

Sometimes friends who learn of a classmates acceptances make anonymous calls to report such falsifications.

I genuinely hope this post is as fake as the OP's.

Honestly, I don't really blame the kids for wanting to report the kids who everyone knows just blatantly lied. So many kids work so hard and are honest, it is really aggravating to see the cheaters prosper.

First of all, how would they "know"? How many applications have you seen other than your own kids?

Second of all, you damned well SHOULD blame them. It's not their job, especially since they are just speculating. It's bitter, destructive, and for those that believe in karma, destined to come back to them x10. While I have no evidence, I doubt such behavior influences adcoms much, especially from anonymous teenagers.

I am not defending lies, or even embellishment, but anyone who has done this - it is DISGRACEFUL.

I don't see how this is a bad thing. Liars should not get away with their tricks. The application process sucks because of how much we allow cheaters to say whatever they want.

As I and another PP above noted:

YOU HAVE NO IDEA IF THEY LIED and doing that to someone else is SH*TTY.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

Really? I have news for you - that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS at 98% of the colleges in the US today.

Admission based on grades and scores.

You got what you wanted already and don't know it.

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Anonymous wrote:Good. All schools should be verifying ECs, non profit productivity, busineses, and awards on applications. Too many kids -and their parents- are ok with lying to get ahead.

But I thought we already have too high administrative bloated universities!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

Really? I have news for you - that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS at 98% of the colleges in the US today.

Admission based on grades and scores.

You got what you wanted already and don't know it.

Even then, I don't envy European admissions systems. They're awful if you ever talked with international students. I just miss pre-TO predictability. There used to be more association between GPA, SAT, ECs, and result. Now, everything is off balance.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

Really? I have news for you - that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS at 98% of the colleges in the US today.

Admission based on grades and scores.

You got what you wanted already and don't know it.

Even then, I don't envy European admissions systems. They're awful if you ever talked with international students. I just miss pre-TO predictability. There used to be more association between GPA, SAT, ECs, and result. Now, everything is off balance.

I think at 98% of US colleges that is demonstrably false.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

Really? I have news for you - that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS at 98% of the colleges in the US today.

Admission based on grades and scores.

You got what you wanted already and don't know it.

Even then, I don't envy European admissions systems. They're awful if you ever talked with international students. I just miss pre-TO predictability. There used to be more association between GPA, SAT, ECs, and result. Now, everything is off balance.

I think at 98% of US colleges that is demonstrably false.

Sure but the 2% is what matters. No one thinks about Britain's education or France's education based off Gloucestershire or Paris 6. Instead, we discuss Oxford and the Grande Ecoles, which both have placement and testing standards and are rigorous to get into.

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A kid in my kid’s class lied on his application and got into Michigan. He bragged about the fact that he lied and even his dad thought it was funny. Schools need to verify awards and ECs.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect Stanford simply led with the "tip of the iceberg" revelation; leaving other juicy "surprise" tidbits for the potential legal battle ... should one ensue. The student likely knows this.

Your mistake is in believing this actually happened.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

Really? I have news for you - that is EXACTLY HOW IT WORKS at 98% of the colleges in the US today.

Admission based on grades and scores.

You got what you wanted already and don't know it.

Even then, I don't envy European admissions systems. They're awful if you ever talked with international students. I just miss pre-TO predictability. There used to be more association between GPA, SAT, ECs, and result. Now, everything is off balance.

I think at 98% of US colleges that is demonstrably false.

Sure but the 2% is what matters.

The fact that you believe that is whose problem, exactly?

(also it is false)

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Anonymous wrote:A kid in my kid’s class lied on his application and got into Michigan. He bragged about the fact that he lied and even his dad thought it was funny. Schools need to verify awards and ECs.

They don't care. All they care about is faking diversity and enough full pay kids to balance the books.

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This could be a true story but it’s a weird second-hand account. I honestly don’t really care, but I suspect this happens on a small scale every year after admission season.

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Anonymous wrote:She was left distraught after learning that a simple embellishment on her college application had cost her a place at Stanford.

"This high schooler in the state of Washington just had their offer to Stanford rescinded for lying about the hour count on their extracurricular activity section," Brandon explained.

He pointed out that while this may be good news for students on Stanford's waitlist who may now have an opportunity to attend the school due to someone's offer being rescinded, the student who this happened to was left upset by the entire ordeal.

For a few of her different extracurriculars, a lot of the hours that she put down on the application were looked into thoroughly by the university back at the beginning of the year when they were initially reviewing her application. However, the school didn't get an answer from the people they'd contacted back when they first inquired.

"A lot of her extracurriculars looked impressive, so it's not a surprise that Stanford still went ahead and offered her admission," Brandon continued.

"But one of the activities that she had placed on her list was volunteering at a daycare for children with special needs.
For that specific activity, she had to put that she had been working there 12 hours a week for 32 weeks per year. When Stanford contacted the daycare, they learned that the student was only a summer volunteer and did 12 weeks a year for 4 hours at a time. Once Stanford learned about the lie, they immediately revoked her application.

The best way to avoid this kind of situation is to avoid lying or embellishing the truth on an activity section for a college application since there are easy ways for a school to verify that information, and once they verify it, then it becomes a huge mess. In a follow-up video, Brandon shared tips for students who are worried about colleges thinking they're lying about their extracurricular hour count.

https://www.yourtango.com/self/stanford-rescinded-students-acceptance-lied-application

Good.

Stop lying on applications.

Parents: set a good example for your kids.

Or.. don't be specific in your EC section.. "Worked at local food banks - 10 hours a week; Web design work for a local nonprofit - 20 hrs a week during summer". Let Stanford verify that!

The activity section of the Common App requires the following for each activity

- Checkbox for grade level
- Checkbox for Timing of participation (__During school year __During school break __All year)
- Hours spent per week ___
- Weeks spent per year ___

If the story in OP is true (which I doubt), the student should simply have checked "During school break" and then correctly completed hours and weeks.

Looks like they tried to fixed this. I recall it used to jut have hours per week, which was hard to answer for something you don't do weekly. But it is still hard for something that you may do 1 hour one week and 30 in another week, etc. Somehow averaging doesn't feel quite right. I wish they just let you type in the answer without their formatting.

Maybe there should be a spot where you could indicate average hours and weeks spent per year/school year/break OR actual hours spent per week or per year.

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Anonymous wrote:I wish we were more like Europe - national exam based admissions and GPA. All this pressure for kids to change the world or be an impossible best for college admission.

THIS x million

So, the parents with means and drive can sculpture, prep, pay and shoehorn their kid into a top candidate through all the advantages money can buy.

Also, Oxbridge colleges include interviews in the process. It's not just test based.

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Anonymous wrote:These stupid volunteering should be excluded, it should be based on test scores, grades and things related to the target major e.g. building a business or selling computer programs at the level on a college graduate. Volunteering is stupid and unrelated.

Riiiight. Because, if you can't get away with lying about it, why include it? Stick to what you can buy, I guess.

Says someone who has bought everything for their kids-- fake ECs, fake disabilities and wonders why their "straight A" kid (who is give 20 hours to complete an exam) scores a 1200 on the SAT.

PP here. Fun to mock the Richie rich entitlement, but that's a lot of vitriol towards legit LD kids. Don't do that.

PP. If you re-read my post, you'll realize that I'm not mocking legit LD kids but rather those that fake it, along with faking everything else.