Is it true the Lacrosse player from Lightridge HS was Bullied or not?

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

Here's a LCHS photo contest. I don't know what the people on this forum have against this family but it's way overboard. Again, lighten up - it's one girl playing public high school lacrosse.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

Here's a LCHS photo contest. I don't know what the people on this forum have against this family but it's way overboard. Again, lighten up - it's one girl playing public high school lacrosse.

https://www.lcps.org/Page/248974

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I'm curious to know how many athletic waiver requests LCPS gets each year and how many are approved or denied. I know of one that was approved for this year. Also a transfer to Indy, but a different sport.

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You all fight like crazy people over bathrooms. This is just a simple CIS girl lacrosse waiver.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm curious to know how many athletic waiver requests LCPS gets each year and how many are approved or denied. I know of one that was approved for this year. Also a transfer to Indy, but a different sport.

I and a lot of other people would like to know this too. With the way the school board has handled this, I’m guessing we’ll never know.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

This is a solid. Wherever the LCPS defender went, hope that mask isn’t too tight!

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

This is a solid. Wherever the LCPS defender went, hope that mask isn’t too tight!

Well, that took a weird turn. Were you drunk? WTF does this have to do with masking and vaccines? Or bathrooms and gender identity?!?!

And there are multiple people in this thread who may have sympathy for the girl but think the family went about this the wrong way and that the rules exist for a valid reason. It's not one single "LCPS defender." If you look at the Loudoun Now comments, they're about 2-1 in against allowing her to play, and most of those in favor are her parents responding to others (just as they seem to be doing here).

It's over. I realize it will be hard for the parents to let go, but they really need to stop with this "she's a victim" mindset and have her look to the future. They were told what the rules were, figured they could get the rules bent for the daughter, and found out they actually couldn't. Going scorched earth and continuing to belabor this is not helping the mental health of their child, which they claim to be making paramount.

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Anonymous wrote:To those youth parents reading. Look at all the fun you have in store playing for Dulles South this spring! Its no coincidence why Loudoun county and everything about it is whats wrong with everything in the DMV.

excellent point. the Dulles South youth program has been setting the wrong example for years so its probably not a coincidence that DS feeds into Indy. The boys coach who got the Indy coach fired is from DS. is the girl in the middle of this story from Dulles South? that would help explain how this all went down.

What’s going on with Dulles South? A DS coach got an Indy coach fired? We’re new to the DS league this year.

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Anonymous wrote:To those youth parents reading. Look at all the fun you have in store playing for Dulles South this spring! Its no coincidence why Loudoun county and everything about it is whats wrong with everything in the DMV.

excellent point. the Dulles South youth program has been setting the wrong example for years so its probably not a coincidence that DS feeds into Indy. The boys coach who got the Indy coach fired is from DS. is the girl in the middle of this story from Dulles South? that would help explain how this all went down.

Dulles South kids go to Briar Woods, Independence, John Champe, Freedom, and I think Rock Ridge. So it is more than just Independence.

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Anonymous wrote:To those youth parents reading. Look at all the fun you have in store playing for Dulles South this spring! Its no coincidence why Loudoun county and everything about it is whats wrong with everything in the DMV.

excellent point. the Dulles South youth program has been setting the wrong example for years so its probably not a coincidence that DS feeds into Indy. The boys coach who got the Indy coach fired is from DS. is the girl in the middle of this story from Dulles South? that would help explain how this all went down.

Dulles South kids go to Briar Woods, Independence, John Champe, Freedom, and I think Rock Ridge. So it is more than just Independence.

Also Lightridge... How could I forget that...

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

This is a solid. Wherever the LCPS defender went, hope that mask isn’t too tight!

Well, that took a weird turn. Were you drunk? WTF does this have to do with masking and vaccines? Or bathrooms and gender identity?!?!

And there are multiple people in this thread who may have sympathy for the girl but think the family went about this the wrong way and that the rules exist for a valid reason. It's not one single "LCPS defender." If you look at the Loudoun Now comments, they're about 2-1 in against allowing her to play, and most of those in favor are her parents responding to others (just as they seem to be doing here).

It's over. I realize it will be hard for the parents to let go, but they really need to stop with this "she's a victim" mindset and have her look to the future. They were told what the rules were, figured they could get the rules bent for the daughter, and found out they actually couldn't. Going scorched earth and continuing to belabor this is not helping the mental health of their child, which they claim to be making paramount.

Curious why you’re stalking both pages too? You do realize that we all could assume it’s just one person and their friends speaking against the girl and her family here and elsewhere. Also wonder how you think you are capable of determining how this girl and her family or anyone should handle their family’s situation. Everyone’s struggle is different and everyone’s path to healing is different.

And to dismiss students/parents aren’t gaming the system and transferring school with activities (especially those that can provide an edge in the crazy competitive LoCo college admissions game) outside of sports is naive, misinformed, and dismissive of those activities’ importance. It should be consistent—athletics, band, theater, academic competitions, student leadership, etc.

And one thing I do agree with is that people bringing in race, the LoCo bathroom issues, etc. is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:While the player’s parents, rightfully so, are catching a lot of heat over this transfer situation it would be foolish to believe Indy and it’s coach did not discuss and encourage actions taken by the player. The Indy coaches know full well what the LCPS transfer policy is and it appears they either turned a blind eye to the rules hoping they could circumvent them the system or they grossly misguided the player.

Your statement presumes manipulation. How about they were helping a troubled kid. How dare they. Btw - who cares. It is girls public school lacrosse. Should have granted the waiver and just moved along. If it had been, bball and a poc, no problem.

The parents bear full responsibility for people concluding there was manipulation here due to their manipulative PR pressure campaign where they ommitted key details in an attempt to whip up sympathy for the girl. You don't go give a dozen "woe is me" media interviews and then have it come out in court that in reality you wanted to play with your friends and former club coach at your new HS, which just happened to have been states runners up last year.

I have no doubt LCPS took one look at those details last summer, when the transfer was initiated, and concluded they couldn't grant the waiver the family wanted. And rightfully so. Going on a 6-month media tour to try to force a reversal wasn't a good look.

Duh, of course if a child is being bullied or is struggling socially leading to mental health struggles they’d want to go to a school with a built in support system of friends and even a trusted coach who is an adult they can lean on. Every parent wants this safe place for their kid; every psychologist-private practice or school would support this; every teacher, administrator and coach would want this for a student in their care who is suffering. And if you know the area depending on where she lived Independence isn’t much farther than Champe and may be closer than Freedom and in either case doesn’t sound like these were schools where she had this support system. As for her parents—I don’t think I would have handled things the same but I am fortunate not to be in their position.

Be that as it may, it's not a valid reason to get a waiver from the eligibility requirements imposed by the state sanctioning body. I'm glad she found a "safe space" but she isn't owed the right to be exempt from the rules. That's what the judge essentially said, BTW.

And I think you *are* the parents. They're closely monitoring all discussions about this, so the responses here are either them or a proxy. Classic bulldozer parent behavior and not doing the poor girl any favors, ultimately.

I’m actually not but think what you want. Maybe you’re affiliated with the others involved because it sounds like you’re monitoring all these places too. But honestly who cares. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I simply have empathy for the kid and agree or disagree with the decision, her parents, etc. everyone should have that. At a minimum it doesn’t sound like she was happy at her other school and that is a crappy and unhealthy way to spend high school. I would hate that for my children or any children but sadly know many do have this experience. And no, she has no “right” to play but since it sounds tied up in her reason to transfer it should have been all or nothing.

Correct. The idea of a partial waiver is ridiculous. Uh, you could be in the band but not lacrosse. How about the school play? VHSL is awful.

baloney. activities like band and theatre do not revolve around competition among schools that the players and parents, whether its right or wrong, consider practically life and death. that's why they have rules for a level playing field. if students could transfer from one school to another and join the team immediately, the landscape would be totally different. this family knew the rule and thought they could muscle their way past it. now they are flipping out because the rule is being enforced.

Try again. https://usbands.org/events/details.php?ID=777. Life or death? Put your mask on and get your shot hyperbole girl. It's girls lacrosse and VHSL is wrong.

This is a solid. Wherever the LCPS defender went, hope that mask isn’t too tight!

Well, that took a weird turn. Were you drunk? WTF does this have to do with masking and vaccines? Or bathrooms and gender identity?!?!

And there are multiple people in this thread who may have sympathy for the girl but think the family went about this the wrong way and that the rules exist for a valid reason. It's not one single "LCPS defender." If you look at the Loudoun Now comments, they're about 2-1 in against allowing her to play, and most of those in favor are her parents responding to others (just as they seem to be doing here).

It's over. I realize it will be hard for the parents to let go, but they really need to stop with this "she's a victim" mindset and have her look to the future. They were told what the rules were, figured they could get the rules bent for the daughter, and found out they actually couldn't. Going scorched earth and continuing to belabor this is not helping the mental health of their child, which they claim to be making paramount.

Curious why you’re stalking both pages too? You do realize that we all could assume it’s just one person and their friends speaking against the girl and her family here and elsewhere. Also wonder how you think you are capable of determining how this girl and her family or anyone should handle their family’s situation. Everyone’s struggle is different and everyone’s path to healing is different.

And to dismiss students/parents aren’t gaming the system and transferring school with activities (especially those that can provide an edge in the crazy competitive LoCo college admissions game) outside of sports is naive, misinformed, and dismissive of those activities’ importance. It should be consistent—athletics, band, theater, academic competitions, student leadership, etc.

And one thing I do agree with is that people bringing in race, the LoCo bathroom issues, etc. is ridiculous.

Why? Athletics features interscholastic contests within divisions. The rules are governed statewide by VHSL, which a sanctioning organization for SPORTS. It sets rules for level playing fields.

The other activities you feature don't have the same competition characteristics as athletics. To the degree marching bands have contests, for example, they're not competing regularly against the same schools in a division. Their showcases could attract bands from all over the state or region. And, BTW, they're covered by different rules (I have no idea about transfer rules, but this isn't an apples to apples comparison). This "it should be all or nothing" position is just bizarre and nonsensical. And a weird pivot from, uh, Tuesday's argument by the family that LCPS is "setting a precedent" barring kids who transfer from those activities (which is just false).

More to the point, if the family wants to protest the state rule, they could have gotten their state delegate to work on legislation to that end rather than go to bat for their daughter with a letter to the school board, which didn't actually have anything to do with the refusal to grant a waiver last June.

I do not have a personal stake in this thing, other than my kid plays lacrosse and another kid plays another sport governed by VHSL and I have a kid who suffers from mental illness. I'm watching the outcome. I guess I've been put off more than a little bit by the family -- who I don't know and have never met -- and their ever-changing messaging, tantrums, scorched-earth tactics. I understand the impulse to stand up for your kid, but they're now trying to present this as LCPS is heartless and evil and they're fighting some sort of altruistic fight, which is disingenuous.