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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

So you don’t think transgenderism is a real thing. Got it.

Answer the question

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

I think it's very telling that you think trans people are maiming themselves by taking hormones or removing their breasts. I see now why you are so scared. You don't view them as a complete person if they undergo a change.

Answer the question.

That's an easy yes. But you think you somehow stumped me with your question. Because it is inconceivable to you that people can whatever the hell they want with their bodies. I also support doctor-assisted suicide, am against the death penalty though (I know, mind blown), and don't care one bit if anyone wants a boob job or a tummy tuck.

Now you? Why do you think that trans people are maiming themselves if they have gender-affirming surgery?

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Can you please tell me how you can be so sure of my child's medical history?

I did not comment on your child's medical history. Your inability to accept them as trans is very clear and you repeatedly document the negative outcome of your lack of acceptance.

BTW, you refer to your child with male pronouns. Are those your kid's preferred pronouns?

You absolutely did. I bolded it. I asked you if you have access to my child's medical history, from childhood on. And if you have access to my child's interactions with his doctors and therapists. Because you are making a lot of accusations and assumptions without any data, if you don't.

I commented on your preference for viewing your child as mentally ill. Do you view your child's gender identity as a mental illness? Do you respect your child's gender identity in even the most basic way by using preferred pronouns? Everything you have written suggests that rather than providing your child support, you treat them as defective and mentally ill. Then, you blame others for your alienation.

NP. You’re not helping anyone’s case here. The PP clearly stated their child was diagnosed with mental health issues long before they identified as trans.

Has pp considered that her child may have had mental health issues because they didn't identify with their gender? Maybe transitioning helped. I've read articles by parents saying as much about young kids.

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

I think it's very telling that you think trans people are maiming themselves by taking hormones or removing their breasts. I see now why you are so scared. You don't view them as a complete person if they undergo a change.

Answer the question.

That's an easy yes. But you think you somehow stumped me with your question. Because it is inconceivable to you that people can whatever the hell they want with their bodies. I also support doctor-assisted suicide, am against the death penalty though (I know, mind blown), and don't care one bit if anyone wants a boob job or a tummy tuck.

Now you? Why do you think that trans people are maiming themselves if they have gender-affirming surgery?

Is it ethical for the surgeon to deliberately blind someone when they know that person is suffering from mental illness?

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

So you don’t think transgenderism is a real thing. Got it.

I (and many others) draw the line at impressionable children being involved where they do not have the maturity to make life changing decisions that transgenderism may involve.
As for adults, they deserve to have the rights to do whatever they desire with their bodies.

But what do you mean by impressionable children being involved? There are threads on DCUM about opting out of even being exposed to books that address transgenderism. Should we shield them from knowing that trans people exists in this world? Or do you mean children are getting life altering surgeries which is 100% not true.

Children are getting life altering surgeries. 100% true.

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At this rate, Jeff is going to have to lock the thread about "locking the thread"...

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

I think it's very telling that you think trans people are maiming themselves by taking hormones or removing their breasts. I see now why you are so scared. You don't view them as a complete person if they undergo a change.

Answer the question.

That's an easy yes. But you think you somehow stumped me with your question. Because it is inconceivable to you that people can whatever the hell they want with their bodies. I also support doctor-assisted suicide, am against the death penalty though (I know, mind blown), and don't care one bit if anyone wants a boob job or a tummy tuck.

Now you? Why do you think that trans people are maiming themselves if they have gender-affirming surgery?

Is it ethical for the surgeon to deliberately blind someone when they know that person is suffering from mental illness?

NP to this thread but what you are referring to is body identity integrity disorder. The tweet below is a woman who blinded herself because she felt she should have always been blind. The distress those with BIID feel can be so intense they will go to great lengths to amputate healthy body parts. It is an under researched area but possible causes can be an issue with the part of the brain that deals with body mapping/body perception, a paraphilia or OCD in some cases. Interestingly enough the most recent research on those with gender dysphoria has shown differences in the part of the brain that deal with body perception as well.

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

I think it's very telling that you think trans people are maiming themselves by taking hormones or removing their breasts. I see now why you are so scared. You don't view them as a complete person if they undergo a change.

Answer the question.

That's an easy yes. But you think you somehow stumped me with your question. Because it is inconceivable to you that people can whatever the hell they want with their bodies. I also support doctor-assisted suicide, am against the death penalty though (I know, mind blown), and don't care one bit if anyone wants a boob job or a tummy tuck.

Now you? Why do you think that trans people are maiming themselves if they have gender-affirming surgery?

Is it ethical for the surgeon to deliberately blind someone when they know that person is suffering from mental illness?

Well since I and the medical community do not think that transgenderism is a mental illness, your question is comparing apples and oranges.

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jsteele wrote:Exactly this pattern occurred this this evening. A poster started a thread about a teacher who is announcing that is announcing that they are non-binary. The original poster said that her family is trans-supporting and later claimed that her children are taught to respect everyone. But, several pages later posted this:

"Not a disgusting freak with his privates mutilated or a poor confused nutcase who doesn’t know if he’s a man a woman a thing or a what. Yuck."

A lot of trans-support and respect going on there, right?

So forgive my cynicism when it comes to the the "I respect trans people but..." crowd.

Yikes!

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the explanation. I get it. I just wish there were somewhere we could discuss these issues in good faith. Changing minds requires changing identities and rethinking complicated long-held beliefs, which will never happen in a vacuum. Take the issue of trans people and locker rooms. For many people, it's not about hating trans people individually or as a group. Instead, their own concept of modesty makes them more comfortable around people whose bodies are similar to theirs. That's the way they have been conditioned. There is so much baked into those ideas about personal privacy that you can't scream "transphobe" at them and expect them to change immediately.

Because it doesn’t align with your view.

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

So you don’t think transgenderism is a real thing. Got it.

NP. I absolutely do not think it is a real thing. You are correct here

I think some people truly believe that they are not of the body they were born to. I do not think that transforms them into their desired sex/gender. But, apparently you cannot use reason or logic on this thread to have a discussion. If you challenge these statements, they get taken down or you get called a bigot. Absurd.

Agreed. Which is a sign of a mental illness.

[Anonymous]

I just saw this on Twitter - a comment very applicable to this discussion:

The trans activists know they can’t win in a fair fight. They suppress, censor and deplatform because they know their position is insane and can’t be defended. If open discussion on this topic was allowed, their side would be crushed into oblivion in less than a week.

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Anonymous wrote:I just saw this on Twitter - a comment very applicable to this discussion:

The trans activists know they can’t win in a fair fight. They suppress, censor and deplatform because they know their position is insane and can’t be defended. If open discussion on this topic was allowed, their side would be crushed into oblivion in less than a week.

I just took a screenshot of this. It is absolute perfection.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:I just saw this on Twitter - a comment very applicable to this discussion:

The trans activists know they can’t win in a fair fight. They suppress, censor and deplatform because they know their position is insane and can’t be defended. If open discussion on this topic was allowed, their side would be crushed into oblivion in less than a week.

You just posted to say that you think transgender individuals suffer from mental illness. What type of open discussion can be held with you? Transgender people have existed throughout history. Almost every medical professional in the field accepts the reality of transgenderism. What evidence could possibly change your mind? Your idea of "open discussion" is simply to be allowed to deny the existence of transgender individuals.

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jsteele wrote:I got tired of removing posts that I considered hateful from that thread. Of course, the authors of those posts will deny that they are hateful because they obviously believe that calling trans women men and accusing them of having mental health issues are just differences of opinion. But, I don't find such posts acceptable.

Every trans-related thread here ultimately goes the same way. It's just too much effort to try to keep the threads civil.

My kid has identified as trans. He most definitely has mental health issues, diagnosed well before. OCD and on the spectrum. What's cruel is the medical community and trans community preying on him, determined to separate him from a family who has always been his advocate.

Yes, you have been repeating this non-stop. It is very clear that you are not willing to accept your child's trans identity and prefer to view them as mentally ill and a victim of groomers. That is not a healthy attitude and, as you are seeing, the results are not good. I hope that your child will find love and support from those who truly are their advocate.

Jeff do you honestly believe that you know more about this posters situation and family, than she herself does?

Yes he does. That’s the arrogance of leftism. He also thinks he knows more than an MD, apparently

Did a MD diagnose your child as not trans?

Also, for the sake of clarification, could you clarify whether the child we are discussing is a pre-teen, a teen, or a young adult?

Yes, the MD did indeed.

The MD diagnosed your kid as “not transgender”?

There is no formal diagnosis, like you can get with cancer. That’s the problem. The psychiatrist stated that true transgenderism expresses itself so early in childhood that it can’t be hidden, and oftentimes, they find those people are gay as adults, which is just fine. The idea of being in the wrong body never presented itself in my kid until it became a ‘thing’ in the schools and on the internet. It’s very ‘popular’ with neurodivergent kids and kids with OCD, because you get an automatic support team, often from the same kids that bullied you. Very powerful. Psych. said the problem is the blind positive reinforcement kids are being given by some of the medical community and therapists. Say you are trans and you are trans. It’s one thing entertaining an idea. It’s another thing when the medical community adds drugs and surgery early on in the game. My kid showed all signs of OCD thinking to the psychiatrist when discussing transgender feelings, and could not tell why without constant reference to internet memes, sites, politics, etc. It was a “I just realized this is probably why I….”

As you will notice in this thread, transgender activists go right to name and shame of parents. They know nothing about the individual child’s background, nothing about the family, nothing about the child’s medical history. This is by design. If you can pull the child from the nuclear family and into their ‘supportive arms’, it serves a double purpose: a new member of the team and the destruction of the nuclear family. At the same time, make sure you batter the parent with ‘your child will kill themselves if you don’t affirm’, because by doing so, you can potentially get three new members, or more, in the case of a blended family! It’s not about the individual child’s needs - it’s about the movement. Even the most liberal studies show true transgenderism is between .5 and .8% of the population. We are seeing conversions now in droves.

My mother was diagnosed with Parkinson's. Did you know there is also no test for Parkinson's? You know it through a collection of symptoms and observable things.

I'm curious how your child's OCD was diagnosed, too. Probably in the same way.

Was your mother diagnosed as transgender as a cause for her Parkinsons? Curious

No one is diagnosed as trans since it's not a mental illness or a disorder. People identify as trans and you just have to believe them. Why is that so hard to comprehend?

Giving medication to, and surgery to, kids and people who just identify as something is scary stuff. If someone identifies as a blind person, should the surgeon take out their eyes?

Why is it scary?

Do you believe a surgeon should surgically blind a man because he identifies as blind?

I think it's very telling that you think trans people are maiming themselves by taking hormones or removing their breasts. I see now why you are so scared. You don't view them as a complete person if they undergo a change.

Answer the question.

That's an easy yes. But you think you somehow stumped me with your question. Because it is inconceivable to you that people can whatever the hell they want with their bodies. I also support doctor-assisted suicide, am against the death penalty though (I know, mind blown), and don't care one bit if anyone wants a boob job or a tummy tuck.

Now you? Why do you think that trans people are maiming themselves if they have gender-affirming surgery?

Is it ethical for the surgeon to deliberately blind someone when they know that person is suffering from mental illness?

Well since I and the medical community do not think that transgenderism is a mental illness, your question is comparing apples and oranges.

NP. Sincere question here. If it isn't a mental illness, then what is it? Is it considered a physical illness? If it's not an illness, why the need for gender affirming "healthcare" that is covered by health insurance and includes drastic surgeries and life altering medications?