UMD vs U Michigan CS major

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For Umich, is it CS Major in COE or LSA? Both takes the similar classes with LSA has 2 year of language requirements and COE has physics, chem, and multi variables and differential eq. 128 credits needed for COE graduation and 120 for LSA. Very tough CS program. EECS280 (first real CS class) has 1450 kids. Long waiting for help in office hour. 25% will drop/fail the class or take Pass/Fail. The next class EECS 281 is another killer class. If your child has lot of programming experience, it will be good in Umich, otherwise it can easily suck in the weeder classes.

It is true, these are tough weeder classes, but kids do get A's in them and move forward through the Major or as a minor.

Not the immediate pp, but I don't think you know what you're talking about. Very few kids getting A's in those classes, and if they do they are spending lots and lots of time and energy to pass. Kids routinely fail UM math classes, and are excited if they get a C+ based on the curve. There is real thing about Michigan Math, which people despise and there was a recent article in the Michigan Daily about how to improve math. FB parents complain about it all the time. Kids are routinely suffering through math, CS, econ classes that are required. The idea that it's easy to get an A is misleading at best, laughable at worst.

Per a Reddit user who got a FOIA males in CS are graduating with GPAs just over 3.0.

I am the poster you are responding to. Kids can get A's in the classes...my kid is one of them and CS is a minor for them. Please don't tell me I don't know what I am posting about.

19:27 said it better than I did and it is possible if not probable our kids might know each other.

Highly probable. I was in Michigan engineering and there were exactly 5 people in the program with any social skills whatsoever.

Let me guess, you were one of the five.

Of course and even I am somewhat of an introvert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

^^ Ann Arbor violent crime rate is 3 times CP 😂😂😂

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/ann-arbor/crime.amp


https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/college-park/crime.amp


horrendous dark and cold school year 26 percent of Michigan students consider suicide.

https://caps.umich.edu/article/facts-and-statistics-0

😞😞😞

[Anonymous]

UMD having more modern ncaa era football national championships is pretty funny. Makes you wonder about the mental stability of 100000 people packing the big house. Maybe they just have nothing else to live for? Then it would make sense. The area is pretty desolate and depressing plus the state is poor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

UMD for fall 2024 has stopped the easy internal transfer to the CS school. Don’t you think students will not be much more likely to pass the CS classes? It’s now 600 direct admit freshmen and 100 total transfers to CS Department. Last year it was 450 direct admit freshman class but unlimited transfers.

I think this goes to show how in demand CS is at UMD. CS at UMD has been an LEP for a while, but as PP stated, fall 2024 will restrict admissions to even more.

UMich only started restricting direct admits to CS this past year.

https://cse.engin.umich.edu/academics/undergraduate/admissions/

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/academics/umich-computer-science-program-restricts-admission-starting-in-fall-2023-as-demand-rises/

I don't know what the direct admit CS numbers are at UMich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

but weather is much better in DC area than Ann Arbor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

^^ Ann Arbor violent crime rate is 3 times CP 😂😂😂

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/ann-arbor/crime.amp


https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/college-park/crime.amp


horrendous dark and cold school year 26 percent of Michigan students consider suicide.

https://caps.umich.edu/article/facts-and-statistics-0

😞😞😞

In case people don't want to click the link:

Violent crime:
CP - 43
AA - 410 -- almost 10x CP

Property crime:
CP - 579
AA - 2070

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Depends on whether the extra $20k per year is significant to you.

This is it. There are many on DCUM that would consider this peanuts. If choosing Mich would impact retirement security or cause you to take out loans, hard no.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

^^ Ann Arbor violent crime rate is 3 times CP 😂😂😂

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/ann-arbor/crime.amp


https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/college-park/crime.amp


horrendous dark and cold school year 26 percent of Michigan students consider suicide.

https://caps.umich.edu/article/facts-and-statistics-0

😞😞😞

In case people don't want to click the link:

Violent crime:
CP - 43
AA - 410 -- almost 10x CP

Property crime:
CP - 579
AA - 2070

I think the types of people that select schools like Michigan or Uva are probably more prone to suicide prior to college. A school like UMD would attract more people with more resilient constitutions to begin with. UMD is not for shrinking violets.

[Anonymous]

Even though Ann Arbor has an exponentially higher crime rate than College Park. It’s not a horrible college town. College Park is just more fortunate since it’s located inside the Beltway of the Worlds most powerful city in the richest state in the country. The better weather and longer daylight is just a bonus. I think the overall academic community area with Georgetown, UMD, Annapolis and Hopkins all in a 15 mile radius is hard to compete with outside of Massachusetts.

[Anonymous]

This is all I need to know about the violent crime incidence in CP according to the above charts:

College Park Violent Crimes Population: 35,110
Murder Rape Robbery Assault
Report Total UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED
Rate per 1,000 UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED


No rapes, robberies, or assaults. Yeah,sure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is all I need to know about the violent crime incidence in CP according to the above charts:

College Park Violent Crimes Population: 35,110
Murder Rape Robbery Assault
Report Total UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED
Rate per 1,000 UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED UNREPORTED


No rapes, robberies, or assaults. Yeah,sure.


lol. That’s ridiculous. How can anyone take that information seriously?

I still wouldn’t pay full OOS tuition to attend UMD. Not worth the buck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UMD has a superior CS program but most kids fail out of CS, it will feel more “prestigious” when he switches major and is at Michigan.

If you care what others think Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision UMD .

Corrected..
"If you care what others think, want a great college town, and don't want to run the risk of getting mugged, Michigan.

If you want to make the best decision, and don't mind a shitty environment, UMD."

^^ Ann Arbor violent crime rate is 3 times CP 😂😂😂

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/mi/ann-arbor/crime.amp


https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/md/college-park/crime.amp


horrendous dark and cold school year 26 percent of Michigan students consider suicide.

https://caps.umich.edu/article/facts-and-statistics-0

😞😞😞

In case people don't want to click the link:

Violent crime:
CP - 43
AA - 410 -- almost 10x CP

Property crime:
CP - 579
AA - 2070

I think the types of people that select schools like Michigan or Uva are probably more prone to suicide prior to college. A school like UMD would attract more people with more resilient constitutions to begin with. UMD is not for shrinking violets.

I was having a bad day. Thanks for the laugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Depends on whether the extra $20k per year is significant to you.

This is it. There are many on DCUM that would consider this peanuts. If choosing Mich would impact retirement security or cause you to take out loans, hard no.

That may be true. But if you’re that wealthy and could afford to send your child anywhere, why on earth would you pick College Park?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Depends on whether the extra $20k per year is significant to you.

This is it. There are many on DCUM that would consider this peanuts. If choosing Mich would impact retirement security or cause you to take out loans, hard no.

That may be true. But if you’re that wealthy and could afford to send your child anywhere, why on earth would you pick College Park?

I was having a bad day. Thanks for a good laugh. Ann Arbor is trauma central and UMD has more football nattys since 1950 (the tv age)