Bathroom security announcement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

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It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

Not true. They’re using the stalls in the girls bathrooms. With some bathrooms now closed, the waits are even longer. We’re going to have health ramifications. My girls already try not to drink anything all day at school. It’s completely unacceptable.

You might want to consider Depends if this is an issue for you.

Kids are gone for eight hours including bus time. What is wrong with you? They are all lined up at lunch time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

1) The other kids who are disturbed by it and don't like it. And furthermore, you know it's illegal for kids to vape anything, let alone marijuana, which is what a lot of them are doing.

2) Second-hand vape fumes is a thing: https://www.heart.org/en/news/2022/05/31/in-secondhand-vape-scientists-smell-risk

So no, they're not "only hurting themselves." They're hurting themselves and creating a hostile, unsafe learning environment for others, oh and also breaking the law.

Not really my biggest concern. I'd rather they find a better reading curriculum or hire more teachers.

Maybe stick to the elementary school forum.

Or maybe you belong in the poo monitor forum.

LOL so true! This whole thread doesn't belong in this forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am livid that they restrict bathroom use when girls on their periods or kids who have intestinal issues MUST get to a bathroom quickly without needing to explain themselves to all and sundry.

My DD at Westland MS already says there are days when teachers don't have enough bathroom passes in class, or get angry and suddenly issue a moratorium on going to the bathroom. I have told her to go between classes, and that I don't care if she's late to class, but if they start restricting access then, what are kids supposed to do???

It's like a badly managed prison.

This is called collective punishment and it is a really bad way to manage anything. If some kid goes to the bathroom and vapes or does drugs or fighting or whatever, punish that kid. But do not punish the entire community.

THIS

It sucks that they are punishing ALL our kids for the (bad) actions of just a few kids.

I want the schools to get a handle on the drug use and everything else that goes on in the school bathrooms, but this ain’t the way to go about it.

They should do a crackdown campaign and bust the kids vaping in the bathrooms. Give everyone a warning tomorrow in the announcements at school, send an email to parents, and let them all know the consequences (first offense x; second xy and much more substantial). Then do it. It won’t be persuasive for all students but it will be for some. This is ridiculous and impacting every single kid.

who cares if they vape ... they're only hurting themselves

Not true. They’re using the stalls in the girls bathrooms. With some bathrooms now closed, the waits are even longer. We’re going to have health ramifications. My girls already try not to drink anything all day at school. It’s completely unacceptable.

You might want to consider Depends if this is an issue for you.

dp.. are you 12 and vape? You sound like it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure who these parents are who don't think this is a big deal, but I don't think they have HS (or even MS) kids, or maybe they are at schools like Whitman and this isn't a problem? It's a major health problem for kids. My kid was just at a doctor's appointment and for a health condition, was told to drink 64 ounces of water a day -- she said no way she can do that, because she can't use the bathroom all day. The stalls are filled with kids using drugs (who don't get out to let someone in to pee), and the teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom during class, because they know that kids will then miss most of the class trying to find an open bathroom stall (or because they are smoking weed in the bathroom). It's totally ridiculous.
And there are also fights which is scary to most kids.

They are taking the doors off at my kids' school, but I really don't see how that will solve anything. They assured us no one could see into the bathroom from the halls, so I'm not sure that taking the doors off will discourage anyone from engaging in criminal conduct there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

MCPS doesn't control federal or state gun control laws, so it's a moot point since we're talking about the steps MCPS can and should take from a security and safety perspective to ensure its buildings are safe and where guns and drugs don't get in.

Stop deflecting and answer the question you were asked. Direct gun control law questions to federal and state legislators.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure who these parents are who don't think this is a big deal, but I don't think they have HS (or even MS) kids, or maybe they are at schools like Whitman and this isn't a problem? It's a major health problem for kids. My kid was just at a doctor's appointment and for a health condition, was told to drink 64 ounces of water a day -- she said no way she can do that, because she can't use the bathroom all day. The stalls are filled with kids using drugs (who don't get out to let someone in to pee), and the teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom during class, because they know that kids will then miss most of the class trying to find an open bathroom stall (or because they are smoking weed in the bathroom). It's totally ridiculous.
And there are also fights which is scary to most kids.

They are taking the doors off at my kids' school, but I really don't see how that will solve anything. They assured us no one could see into the bathroom from the halls, so I'm not sure that taking the doors off will discourage anyone from engaging in criminal conduct there.

Yup. Thank you for the first part. There are so many trickle down effects of the current state of affairs with the bathrooms.

And I don't know what school your kids go to, but mine go to Kennedy and taking the doors off the bathroom didn't do a damn thing and I doubt it'll do anything at your kids' school either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure who these parents are who don't think this is a big deal, but I don't think they have HS (or even MS) kids, or maybe they are at schools like Whitman and this isn't a problem? It's a major health problem for kids. My kid was just at a doctor's appointment and for a health condition, was told to drink 64 ounces of water a day -- she said no way she can do that, because she can't use the bathroom all day. The stalls are filled with kids using drugs (who don't get out to let someone in to pee), and the teachers won't let kids go to the bathroom during class, because they know that kids will then miss most of the class trying to find an open bathroom stall (or because they are smoking weed in the bathroom). It's totally ridiculous.
And there are also fights which is scary to most kids.

They are taking the doors off at my kids' school, but I really don't see how that will solve anything. They assured us no one could see into the bathroom from the halls, so I'm not sure that taking the doors off will discourage anyone from engaging in criminal conduct there.

My high schooler went to the doctor for dizziness - diagnosis: dehydration. But she won’t drink during school day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

The NRA lobbyists hate this.. their solution is to hire SROs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“During transition periods and more unstructured times, like before school, after school and lunch periods, schools may limit access to designated restrooms.”

So, at the impacted secondary schools, when do kids use the bathroom? During class only? Or wait during lunch for the only open restroom? Will teachers always allow kids to use the bathroom during class?

It would help if you found a new hobby. Obsessing about bathrooms seems unhealthy.

Okay, boymom

FTR, I am a boymom and the bathroom situation infuriates me. My son avoids going to the bathroom also and it’s ridiculous.

School bathrooms were sketchy when I was in school 30 years ago, and I avoided them. I guess nothing really changes.

Kids were overdosing and dying or getting shot in the bathrooms 30 years ago?

Kind of hard to believe since Magruder was the first-ever school shooting in MCPS history....

It's good to know that a rare thing then.

How many bathroom shootings will it take for you to feel MCPS should alter its security strategy and posture with regard to bathrooms? 10 dead kids? 20? How much collateral damage are you ok with so you can preserve the status quo and why are their lives worth that to you?

A better question might be how many school shootings do there have to be until common Sense gun legislation is enacted. This isn't about bathrooms or MCPS. Anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

If the previous poster is concerned about school shootings like they claim, then gun control legislation makes perfect sense to but I have the impression they have a different political agenda.

They want to use the one gun violence incident at MCPS has justification for hiring SROs. This is well documented. NRA stance but most people recall how ineffective they were when present at places like parkland and uvalde. The point is to distract from any discussion of gun reform.