4 students in University of Idaho, killed in their home.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's that sleuth forum where users investigate viral things like this?


Websleuths and they are already on thread #3.


As crazy as people on websleuths appear to be several years ago they solved the case of my friend who went missing. It turned out she had committed suicide by driving her car off a cliff, they organized online where they speculated her car might be, organized a search, and found her. Was incredible.


I’m so sorry about your friend. But a nice story about strangers coming together to help out. Is the link still around for that?


Here is an article about it, it doesn’t mention websleuths but when the police couldn’t seem to find her and were alleging she purposefully didn’t want to be found, websleuths organized some searches with the family’s blessing and a guy on a motorcycle from that found her. He had to almost climb down the cliff, but he found her.

https://www.journalpatriot.com/news/missing-charlotte-woman-s-car-recovered-near-n-c-16/article_a1824cc4-ce09-11e2-9582-001a4bcf6878.html
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What's that sleuth forum where users investigate viral things like this?


Websleuths and they are already on thread #3.


As crazy as people on websleuths appear to be several years ago they solved the case of my friend who went missing. It turned out she had committed suicide by driving her car off a cliff, they organized online where they speculated her car might be, organized a search, and found her. Was incredible.


I’m so sorry about your friend. But a nice story about strangers coming together to help out. Is the link still around for that?


Here is an article about it, it doesn’t mention websleuths but when the police couldn’t seem to find her and were alleging she purposefully didn’t want to be found, websleuths organized some searches with the family’s blessing and a guy on a motorcycle from that found her. He had to almost climb down the cliff, but he found her.

https://www.journalpatriot.com/news/missing-charlotte-woman-s-car-recovered-near-n-c-16/article_a1824cc4-ce09-11e2-9582-001a4bcf6878.html


What a tragedy. I’m glad the motorcycle sleuth was able to bring some closure to her family and friends. Holding space here tonight for the loss of your friend.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:One of the victim's father is saying that her autopsy showed that she fought back. That is just so hard to understand. If there was a scuffle, why did the others not flee? I don't understand. how do you kill 4 young people by knife unless it is done quickly when they are all passed out asleep?


I wonder what evidence they have in that regard. I hope it's not just bruising and random scrapes because drunk college kids always have a lot of bruises and scrapes from drunken stumbles.

I hope one of the victims was able to grab the perp's hair or skin for some DNA.


Defensive wounds mean on the hands or arms, i.e. trying to block the blows. They are very different than 'random bruises and scrapes'.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The internet has made every clueless teleworker think they are an expert, based upon their innate intelligence I guess.

Can you please give experienced professionals (like a coroner) some credit for knowing more than you?


No truer words could have been spoken.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The internet has made every clueless teleworker think they are an expert, based upon their innate intelligence I guess.

Can you please give experienced professionals (like a coroner) some credit for knowing more than you?


In many counties, coroners are elected positions with zero requirements to qualify.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The internet has made every clueless teleworker think they are an expert, based upon their innate intelligence I guess.

Can you please give experienced professionals (like a coroner) some credit for knowing more than you?


In many counties, coroners are elected positions with zero requirements to qualify.


I realize that. Medical examiners are better (i.e., physicians). But I think most coroners, on Day 2 of their jobs, still know more than an internet poster who thinks defensive wounds experienced during a knife attack would look the same as bruises that are apparently very common among college students because they walk around drunk all the time.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I almost feel sorry for the police. They’re obviously small town cops and this is a horrific crime that’s attracting international attention. Of course they’re in over their heads.


What an ignorant comment, you obviously know nothing about law enforcement.


I know enough that the close rate on murder cases has plunged over the last six decades. And local law enforcement hires are often based on "who you know," not "what you know." Sometimes the who and the what line up and other times it's just a guy (usually so) drawing a paycheck and expending little effort till pension time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The internet has made every clueless teleworker think they are an expert, based upon their innate intelligence I guess.

Can you please give experienced professionals (like a coroner) some credit for knowing more than you?


In many counties, coroners are elected positions with zero requirements to qualify.


I realize that. Medical examiners are better (i.e., physicians). But I think most coroners, on Day 2 of their jobs, still know more than an internet poster who thinks defensive wounds experienced during a knife attack would look the same as bruises that are apparently very common among college students because they walk around drunk all the time.


I was a messy drunken college student and my hands, arms and legs were always full of random scrapes and bruises. Not proud of it, but it's true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I almost feel sorry for the police. They’re obviously small town cops and this is a horrific crime that’s attracting international attention. Of course they’re in over their heads.


What an ignorant comment, you obviously know nothing about law enforcement.


I know enough that the close rate on murder cases has plunged over the last six decades. And local law enforcement hires are often based on "who you know," not "what you know." Sometimes the who and the what line up and other times it's just a guy (usually so) drawing a paycheck and expending little effort till pension time.


Most cops are six-figure welfare queens. They do literally nothing.
Anonymous
Is anyone else following this? I can't understand the timeline of when it occurred and the 911 call.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following this? I can't understand the timeline of when it occurred and the 911 call.


I’ve read that it likely occurred between 3am and 4am. One or 2 of the victims was making phone calls until close to 3am so I think that’s why 3am is reported as the earliest it could have occurred. Per some reporting, the 911 call was before 12 noon the next day. The caller was reportedly saying “unconscious” of “non responsive.” Details on this are inconsistent. I’ve wondered if the caller was a parent or someone else out of town that was concerned about not being able to reach a victim. Non responsive = not picking up the phone. But I’m guessing of course.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following this? I can't understand the timeline of when it occurred and the 911 call.


They think it occurred between 3-4am and the surviving roommates were asleep the whole time. The next day at noon another friend arrived at the house, saw something wrong and called 911. It’s unclear if the other roommates were still in their rooms but they must have been.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is anyone else following this? I can't understand the timeline of when it occurred and the 911 call.


I’ve read that it likely occurred between 3am and 4am. One or 2 of the victims was making phone calls until close to 3am so I think that’s why 3am is reported as the earliest it could have occurred. Per some reporting, the 911 call was before 12 noon the next day. The caller was reportedly saying “unconscious” of “non responsive.” Details on this are inconsistent. I’ve wondered if the caller was a parent or someone else out of town that was concerned about not being able to reach a victim. Non responsive = not picking up the phone. But I’m guessing of course.


Strange that they wouldn't have gone and looked at the other roommates - but your theory of it being a parent may be accurate.
Anonymous
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Similar happened at UMich a couple of years ago at an off-campus apartment. A man walked in an unlocked apartment and tried to rape several girls in their respective rooms. A magistrate let him bond out without a tether and he immediately fled the country:

https://www.michigandaily.com/news/crime/ann-arbor-man-arrested-after-sexual-assault-south-u/


That article says the suspect is Canadian. I'd imagine extradition would not be difficult?
Anonymous
This reminds me of Ted Bundy, and a possible serial killer is responsible.
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