WISC SCORES

[Anonymous]

Hi guys
My son WISC scores is way less than his cogat
I was hesitant about adding it with appeal
Someone here advised me to including it since his reasoning fluid index is extremely high and the english is not his first language.
I feel sometimes that my kid has a problem with the processing thinking time because he doesn’t perfect yet in english and not perfect as well in his first language ,so always thing mixed up for him .


His cogat 141
FSIQ 119
Reasoning fluid index 99.6% which is extremely high

What do you recommend guys and please excuse my so many questions. I’m just a mom who doesn’t want his kid to loose his chance just because the language 😅

[Anonymous]

I thought ESOl students were given some advantage according to this forum. I would include the Wisc even if low overall if the reports speaks well of the child and their performance. Though I don’t think the test score was what kept your child out. So review the file with the AART and discuss your appeal with them to get help

[Anonymous]

If his iready is above 90%, test scores are not the issue so WISC is less important.

Pay attention to HOPE rating and address the weakness in your appeal

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought ESOl students were given some advantage according to this forum. I would include the Wisc even if low overall if the reports speaks well of the child and their performance. Though I don’t think the test score was what kept your child out. So review the file with the AART and discuss your appeal with them to get help

The report with the WISC describes his performance in really good way and they mentioned his speaking ability and education abilities

[Anonymous]

Great I think that’s important. My son got in on a appeal with a Wisc that was 126 and higher cover but the report spoke highly of him

[Anonymous]

*cogAt

[Anonymous]

Your case is a tough one. Normally, I'd say that you absolutely should not include a WISC that is so much lower than the CogAT. But, the FRI is very high, and your kid has an excellent reason for performing lower on some of the language based sections.

If you can craft a narrative showing that his math and science related needs can't be met in gen ed+ advanced math, and that he is still strong in verbal skills, but testing lower due to ESOL, then I'd include the WISC. I'd possibly have him write a story or poem in his native language, and then include that as a work sample in the appeal.

[Anonymous]

I say no. They don’t care about fluid reasoning. They want to see a strong verbal and math score. WISC 119 isn’t going to cut it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I say no. They don’t care about fluid reasoning. They want to see a strong verbal and math score. WISC 119 isn’t going to cut it.

Fluid reasoning is the most math oriented WISC index. 99.7th percentile is quite high.

[Anonymous]

You need to ask the person who wrote up the WiSC that English is not your son’s first language. Were yoh the one who posted yesterday? You need to highlight he rapidly learned English and now has high verbal scores despite the face your family speaks another language at home. And the first score that needs to be on the report is not the full scale or gai. It should be the nonverbal score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Your case is a tough one. Normally, I'd say that you absolutely should not include a WISC that is so much lower than the CogAT. But, the FRI is very high, and your kid has an excellent reason for performing lower on some of the language based sections.

If you can craft a narrative showing that his math and science related needs can't be met in gen ed+ advanced math, and that he is still strong in verbal skills, but testing lower due to ESOL, then I'd include the WISC. I'd possibly have him write a story or poem in his native language, and then include that as a work sample in the appeal.

The problem is our native language and the formal language which is used in poem and story is way different from the slang language. But by the way he wrote a simple poem in simple english words and I think it’s really good .
And sometimes he write a joke (I don’t know if that might be useful in appeal😅)

[Anonymous]

I would not include these scores if cogat is higher !