USC and Columbia Protests

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Anonymous wrote:Let’s draw a simple analogy.

Japan launched a surprise attack on a US military installation on a December morning. The US fought the Japanese across the Pacific and to end the war killed tens of thousands with two atomic bombs.

Hamas attacked Israel on an October morning killing woman and children. Israel is responding to that attack as the US did. When Hamas is no more Israel will stop.



There is no doubt in mind that we would have lost WWII with the mindset thst so many Americans are displaying these days.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.


Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.


For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?


Yes that’s exactly correct. Israel has every right to defend itself against butchers.


This. Just like any other country that has been invaded and its citizens massacred, abducted, or raped (and then massacred). If any country allows attacks like this to continue against its citizens, and Hamas has promised to do Oct. 7 over and over again, they are not satisfying their duty to protect their own citizens.

Israel is engaged in a grim but necessary war for its survival. Hamas is trying to drive the Gazan civilian casualty numbers up as high as they can, but Israel can't afford to let Hamas continue to massacre citizens on either side of the Gazan border.


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And not only has Hamas made this gruesome promise, but pro-Hamas protesters have as well. Yet we’re supposed to see them as “brave humanitarians.” Not a chance in hell.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.


Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.


For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?


DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?


Nothing further to reply to after “Yes”, other than to say your sociopathy and evil nature justifies any misfortune that may come your way.


NP. Why don’t you read what is written before you insult people and call the. Sociopaths and evil? You are not making sense and so you just attack. Not helping you.
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Anonymous wrote:NP and I haven’t read all of the 70+ pages.

A quick question for those justifying these demonstrations: why not go to schools that meet your criteria instead of disrupting other students’ learning/graduation etc at schools where you are not happy?

Also, how many of these students are receiving aid/scholarships? Each and everyone of these students’ aid/scholarships need to end ASAP.


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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.


Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.


For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?


DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?


Nothing further to reply to after “Yes”, other than to say your sociopathy and evil nature justifies any misfortune that may come your way.


NP. Why don’t you read what is written before you insult people and call the. Sociopaths and evil? You are not making sense and so you just attack. Not helping you.


DP

Attack? Maybe that’s why you cannot calibrate a normal human response? You see the PP’s comment as an attack?

Bizarre.
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.


Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.


For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?


DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?


Nothing further to reply to after “Yes”, other than to say your sociopathy and evil nature justifies any misfortune that may come your way.


NP. Why don’t you read what is written before you insult people and call the. Sociopaths and evil? You are not making sense and so you just attack. Not helping you.


DP

Attack? Maybe that’s why you cannot calibrate a normal human response? You see the PP’s comment as an attack?

Bizarre.


Yes. Calling someone evil isn’t an attack, especially when it’s used in place of a rational discourse.
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Anonymous wrote:What about the American hostages currently held by Hamas? One guy is still alive but has had both arms cut off.


Hamas is not a recognized state that we support. Israel is, and Israel is committing war crimes. There is never a justification for war crimes!


The protestors are literally chanting “we are Hamas”.


Don't get all tingly and start mowing them down indiscriminately, IDF goon squad enthusiasts.


What is the right way to make sure terrorists stop attacking your people? It surely isn't giving them what they demand when their demand is your suicide. It isn't asking them nicely because they ain't nice.

It also doesn't seem to be negotiating with them because they reject offers and move goalposts.

So really, they need to be eliminated.


It certainly isn't murdering a bunch of women and children (72% of Israel's victims) who didn't do a damn thing to you. How many lives do you require before your blood lust is satisfied?


These vampires know no limits. The evil emerging from Emperor Netanyahu's scarred, craven visage says it all. Evil. Pure evil. Pretending otherwise is a just co-signing onto the banner of evil that Israel bears as it brings misery and suffering to the world.


Who is paying you to write this?


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This came straight out of Hamas and Hezbollah talking points.

It is no coincidence that official statements by Hamas and major jihadist groups about the protests are nearly identical. The statements seem like talking points for pressuring U.S. and Western decision makers.

Every senior Hamas leader has also acknowledged the importance of the protests and said that influencing U.S. and Western policy is part of the organization’s strategy for destroying Israel. Khaled Mashal, the Hamas leader abroad, on Oct. 10 urged supporters to protest “in cities everywhere.” On Oct. 31, he said that the organization’s friends “on the global left” were responding to its appeal.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/whos-behind-the-anti-israel-protests-hamas-gaza-hezbollah-talking-points-d2f538ca?st=clfqg049wc4540g&reflink=article_copyURL_share
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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.


Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.


For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?


DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?


Nothing further to reply to after “Yes”, other than to say your sociopathy and evil nature justifies any misfortune that may come your way.


NP. Why don’t you read what is written before you insult people and call the. Sociopaths and evil? You are not making sense and so you just attack. Not helping you.


DP

Attack? Maybe that’s why you cannot calibrate a normal human response? You see the PP’s comment as an attack?

Bizarre.


Yes. Calling someone evil isn’t an attack, especially when it’s used in place of a rational discourse.


They responded to an evil human being who confirmed that they believe that the deaths on 10/7 justified all of the deaths that have followed (and continue to follow). That’s baseline sociopathic, evil thought. It was right to be labeled as such. And if that doesn’t make sense in your mind, best wishes for those around you, too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let’s draw a simple analogy.

Japan launched a surprise attack on a US military installation on a December morning. The US fought the Japanese across the Pacific and to end the war killed tens of thousands with two atomic bombs.

Hamas attacked Israel on an October morning killing woman and children. Israel is responding to that attack as the US did. When Hamas is no more Israel will stop.



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Play stupid games…
Anonymous
We have a Krav Magoo tough guy in here to liven things up!
Anonymous
Posters keep referring to Kent state and the Columbia anti-vietnams protests and both seem to have had opposite effects. Kent state created sympathy and Columba led to Nixon's election and the prolonging of the war.

I have a question though- regardless of the outcome- when young university students protest governments and the powers that be- are they usually proved to have had the wrong opinion morally speaking? I mean the nazis were not on university campuses- the students were terrified of them b.c they were working class thugs & the ordinary German students were cowards who didnt stand up against the Nazis. The only germans who stood up and protested were German women in Berlin whose jewish husbands were rounded up and they were successful in negotiating their release.

I'm inclined to believe that power is a corrupting force and I also despise al of our politicians- my dream would be if Michelle Obama became president somehow. Congress is full of grifters- they are so incompetent, haven't done anything of use for man or beast since I've been alive. that does not automatically mean ordinary citizens are any better though. I am inclined to side with the mass of unwashed just on principle since I know government is inclined to be corrupt and selfish and greedy and uninterested in anything but graft for some rich bastards.

So am I correct in thinking that the mass of people protesting is usually on "the right side of history " or are there instances when they were wrong in modern history? obviously the bolsheviks were right to kill the czar but downhill after that, same with the French beheading all those aristocrats- that was good but then they mostly lost the plot and ended up with reign of terror, monarchy again and Napoleonic mess. Has it been equally as true of student groups in democracies? I feel like we just automaticaly assume youth is morally better than wisened and corrupt old age since old age has more to lose but is that actually true?
Anonymous
Soros and the Rockefellers are paying protesters on the college campuses through charitable grants to Just for Peace in the Middle East.

There is suspicion that these grants don't meet IRS regulations for a charitable grant since the monies are funneled to support Hamas.
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Anonymous wrote:Hamas and Hezbollah must be so delighted that all their useful idiots are protesting on their behalf.

Major terror organizations have expressed support for these protests and disruptive actions, which have long been a key part of Hamas’s plan to win hearts and minds in the West. As early as a decade ago, during the July-August 2014 Israel-Gaza war, Hamas’s Interior Ministry issued guidelines to social-media activists on framing events for a Western audience.

Every senior Hamas leader has also acknowledged the importance of the protests and said that influencing U.S. and Western policy is part of the organization’s strategy for destroying Israel. Khaled Mashal, the Hamas leader abroad, on Oct. 10 urged supporters to protest “in cities everywhere.” On Oct. 31, he said that the organization’s friends “on the global left” were responding to its appeal. On March 27, he called for millions to take to the streets in protest, saying there had been an unprecedented shift in global public opinion.

On Oct. 7, Hamas leader and former Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh alluded to this on Al Jazeera TV. He exhorted the “resistance abroad,” “strategic allies” and Muslims worldwide—all “partners in creating this great victory”—to “join this battle any way they can.” Hamas political bureau member Osama Hamdan underlined the “large impact” of the protests “in pressuring the decision makers in the world” in an interview on Nov. 12.

The collaboration between senior terrorists and their growing list of friends in the U.S. and the West has real-world consequences. These groups are designated terrorist for a reason. They don’t plan marches and rallies—they carry out terrorist attacks. And when the U.S. and Western activists, including college students, see that their marches and protests aren’t achieving their goals, they may consider their next steps—which will be influenced by the company they have been keeping.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/whos-behind-the-anti-israel-protests-hamas-gaza-hezbollah-talking-points-d2f538ca?st=6fiuwnv4kssokmc&reflink=article_copyURL_share


You know who are the biggest terrorists? AIPAC…. They have been controlling, manipulating U.S foreign policy since 1953, let that sink in for a moment. Middle East has no issues with Americans, yet we have had to pay the price in blood just because our politicians are bought and sold by Zionists, Israel has dragged us into every single conflict in the Middle East. Period.


Israel is governed by bonafied terrorists. Literally. I introduce you to Ben Gvir



Here’s your “source” - what a joke:

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So you have no evidence to the contrary or citations, just a blanket “this media source cannot be trusted based on its political leaning.” from an obscure website. HOW QUAINT!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Soros and the Rockefellers are paying protesters on the college campuses through charitable grants to Just for Peace in the Middle East.

There is suspicion that these grants don't meet IRS regulations for a charitable grant since the monies are funneled to support Hamas.


The only people that are being paid and bussed in from Jersey to rage at college students in their campus, are these losers. Are you one of them?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Posters keep referring to Kent state and the Columbia anti-vietnams protests and both seem to have had opposite effects. Kent state created sympathy and Columba led to Nixon's election and the prolonging of the war.

I have a question though- regardless of the outcome- when young university students protest governments and the powers that be- are they usually proved to have had the wrong opinion morally speaking? I mean the nazis were not on university campuses- the students were terrified of them b.c they were working class thugs & the ordinary German students were cowards who didnt stand up against the Nazis. The only germans who stood up and protested were German women in Berlin whose jewish husbands were rounded up and they were successful in negotiating their release.

I'm inclined to believe that power is a corrupting force and I also despise al of our politicians- my dream would be if Michelle Obama became president somehow. Congress is full of grifters- they are so incompetent, haven't done anything of use for man or beast since I've been alive. that does not automatically mean ordinary citizens are any better though. I am inclined to side with the mass of unwashed just on principle since I know government is inclined to be corrupt and selfish and greedy and uninterested in anything but graft for some rich bastards.

So am I correct in thinking that the mass of people protesting is usually on "the right side of history " or are there instances when they were wrong in modern history? obviously the bolsheviks were right to kill the czar but downhill after that, same with the French beheading all those aristocrats- that was good but then they mostly lost the plot and ended up with reign of terror, monarchy again and Napoleonic mess. Has it been equally as true of student groups in democracies? I feel like we just automaticaly assume youth is morally better than wisened and corrupt old age since old age has more to lose but is that actually true?


That's a long way of saying that you are on the side of Hamas.

Yay for you, I guess.
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