USC and Columbia Protests

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Well, pro-terror agitators and apologists for terrorists, you are why we can't have nice things.

It's funny, I always liken people like you to a burglar who steals from others, and then plays the indignant card when their victims fight back.

Enabling state terrorism in the form of Israel is WHY we can't have nice things. The world is coming to that realization, and you'll be dragged kicking and screaming to the new reality, I guess.

This idiot just described Oct. 7 in a nutshell. Hamas brutally attacked Israel, Israel fought back, and now Hamas is playing the victim - as are all the pro-Hamas protesters. Amazing self-own.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread, may have already been said, here is what will happen:

Protests continue through summer
Chicago Dem convention is a repeat of 68
Riots and violence lead to Trump presidency
Trump is elected and provides just as much if not more support to Israel

Yes if only Biden would listen to the people and change his support for Israel. Before he was elected he promised to hold the Saudis accountable. Now he thinks he can solve the Palestinians issue by making a deal with the Saudis to recognize Israel while not doing anything to address the Palestinians issue. Bet That does not work and leads to more unintentional consequences.

Though he is lot like LBJ in the Ukraine with his slowly introducing weapon systems and his out dated views on Israel.

Why does he need to listen to some "people"? This set of people, sometimes in life we hear "no", said or implied.
It seems that Palestinians and their supporters do not know what the word "no" means. They have been begging for 80 years, and the answer has been "no". Maybe others just don't want what you want. All that is left is for you to war so go for that.

It’s not some people. A recent survey by The Wall Street journal show that 60% of voters do not agree with his handling of the conflict.

The opinion of the people is irrelevant in a heavily militarized, neofeudalist entity. The purpose of the United States is to generate wealth and maintain power for a few hundred people, by any means necessary.

I think these congress people, if they haven't been swayed by the Israel interest group, are certainly affected by groupthink when it comes to Israel.

Watch Speaker Johnson’s interview with Erin Burnett. Hand on a bible, the guy is in an absolute trance regurgitating talking points straight from AIPAC.

Our ejected representatives are bought. It’s a fact, not opinion or conspiracy theory. They’re bought and representing our interests is only a consideration where it doesn’t affect the orders of their true masters. It’s frightening.

No, no, its just a coincidence that both Trump and Biden are reflexively pro-Israel. Its also coincidental that even if you want to vote for the third-party guy, you will get someone reflexively pro-Israel. They differ on pretty much everything else, but coincidentally are aligned on this one thing. See, just coincidences!

Or it could be that 80 years of Palestinian terrorism hasn't endeared the Palestinians to the US?

Just a coincidence.

EXACTLY!

As Americans, we’ve been on the dead wrong side of history many times before. Our judgement, often based on false information, isn’t perfect by any means.

Israel’s conduct over the past 7+ decades is the larger problem in this conflict that has brought us here. Nobody wants to pay your bills any longer. Fend for yourself. What part of that isn’t clear?

Not my bills--Israel's.

US should continue helping Israel as long as it's in our interest to do so. Simple as that.

It has never been in the US interest to help Israel. If one were object, Iran offers a lot more vs Israel with less moral hypocrisy. Iran has oil, oppose the Saudis(who are responsible for 9/11), controls the straits of hormuz, better strategic location, would allow US military bases, etc, etc.

Iran's not an option, for a variety of reasons (most of which have nothing to do with Israel).

The issue is strategic value of Israel vs. realistic alternatives. Also, potential cost of a diminished relationship with Israel, which is quite high.

Like what? Please give concrete examples of Israel’s vale to the US. Do not say intelligence. Do not say ally because it is a protectorate of the US. No one in the intelligence field believes anything Israel puts out there. It is self serving to the point of being useless.

Israel is of no value strategically, Israel does not allow the US to use it airbase or air space, it is in an unimportant part of the world, has no resources, can not be relied on militarily or politically. What is so vital to US interest?

Is that true about the airbase and air space? And, also per above that Americans can’t live/work there?

If you are Jewish, then yes, you can get Israeli citizenship. They call it a “democracy” but only if you are of a certain religion.

Tell us how you support people who execute gays and treat women like chattel - you know, Hamas and Palestinians.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a new twist. At my child's school, a pro-Palestinian protestor gave a stereotypically Jewish name to the press ("Simcha Fleishmann") but was recognized as an Arab student, and there is no "Simcha Fleischmann" in the student directory. Looks like the press accounts are slowly being corrected and the false name is being removed from articles.

I don’t know how widespread this practice is, but when these pro-terror demonstrators claim they can't possibly be antisemitic because there are oodles of Jews among them, be aware that this may not be true in any sense.

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I wouldn’t put it past these people.

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🚨Hearing from multiple NU students that some faculty are allowing people to miss classes to attend the Hamas solidarity rally/encampment that the university has clearly stated violates policy & is not permitted. One class has been moved TO Deering Meadow, where it’s taking place. Imagine being a Jewish student in that class & being informed that in order to attend class, you must show up at the site of a hate rally, where a student journalist has been assaulted, campus police were physically resisted & people are wearing Hamas-branded clothing. It’s sick. NU needs to crack down. Soon.

Imagine being a Muslim students and being constantly attacked by paid jewish pressure groups and thugs. Called a terrorists because of how you look. This is McCarthyism.

Except that’s not what is happening, is it? The pro-Hamas students are the aggressors and the entire country is well aware.
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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t read the entire thread, may have already been said, here is what will happen:

Protests continue through summer
Chicago Dem convention is a repeat of 68
Riots and violence lead to Trump presidency
Trump is elected and provides just as much if not more support to Israel

Yes if only Biden would listen to the people and change his support for Israel. Before he was elected he promised to hold the Saudis accountable. Now he thinks he can solve the Palestinians issue by making a deal with the Saudis to recognize Israel while not doing anything to address the Palestinians issue. Bet That does not work and leads to more unintentional consequences.

Though he is lot like LBJ in the Ukraine with his slowly introducing weapon systems and his out dated views on Israel.

Why does he need to listen to some "people"? This set of people, sometimes in life we hear "no", said or implied.
It seems that Palestinians and their supporters do not know what the word "no" means. They have been begging for 80 years, and the answer has been "no". Maybe others just don't want what you want. All that is left is for you to war so go for that.

It’s not some people. A recent survey by The Wall Street journal show that 60% of voters do not agree with his handling of the conflict.

The opinion of the people is irrelevant in a heavily militarized, neofeudalist entity. The purpose of the United States is to generate wealth and maintain power for a few hundred people, by any means necessary.

I think these congress people, if they haven't been swayed by the Israel interest group, are certainly affected by groupthink when it comes to Israel.

Watch Speaker Johnson’s interview with Erin Burnett. Hand on a bible, the guy is in an absolute trance regurgitating talking points straight from AIPAC.

Our ejected representatives are bought. It’s a fact, not opinion or conspiracy theory. They’re bought and representing our interests is only a consideration where it doesn’t affect the orders of their true masters. It’s frightening.

No, no, its just a coincidence that both Trump and Biden are reflexively pro-Israel. Its also coincidental that even if you want to vote for the third-party guy, you will get someone reflexively pro-Israel. They differ on pretty much everything else, but coincidentally are aligned on this one thing. See, just coincidences!

Or it could be that 80 years of Palestinian terrorism hasn't endeared the Palestinians to the US?

Just a coincidence.

EXACTLY!

As Americans, we’ve been on the dead wrong side of history many times before. Our judgement, often based on false information, isn’t perfect by any means.

Israel’s conduct over the past 7+ decades is the larger problem in this conflict that has brought us here. Nobody wants to pay your bills any longer. Fend for yourself. What part of that isn’t clear?

Not my bills--Israel's.

US should continue helping Israel as long as it's in our interest to do so. Simple as that.

It has never been in the US interest to help Israel. If one were object, Iran offers a lot more vs Israel with less moral hypocrisy. Iran has oil, oppose the Saudis(who are responsible for 9/11), controls the straits of hormuz, better strategic location, would allow US military bases, etc, etc.

Iran's not an option, for a variety of reasons (most of which have nothing to do with Israel).

The issue is strategic value of Israel vs. realistic alternatives. Also, potential cost of a diminished relationship with Israel, which is quite high.

Like what? Please give concrete examples of Israel’s vale to the US. Do not say intelligence. Do not say ally because it is a protectorate of the US. No one in the intelligence field believes anything Israel puts out there. It is self serving to the point of being useless.

Israel is of no value strategically, Israel does not allow the US to use it airbase or air space, it is in an unimportant part of the world, has no resources, can not be relied on militarily or politically. What is so vital to US interest?

Very simple. Israel does not terrorize and kidnap and attack innocent US civilians. Israel promotes democratic values more closely aligned with modern democracies than Iran.

That isn't true- there are American citizens who are in administrative detention snatched from teh West Bank by Israel, Amerin citizens have also been shot and killed in the West Bank by Israeli forces, some of them were young children. You are just racist and dont think Arab-American is true human being worthy of citizenship.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.

Speaking of idiot ^^. Where were all these oh-so-humanitarian protesters right after the atrocities of 10/7, speaking out about the Hamas terrorists and the horrific crimes they committed?? For some reason, you were all silent about that and only outraged after Israel defended itself. Why could that be? Think think think…

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Anonymous wrote:What about the American hostages currently held by Hamas? One guy is still alive but has had both arms cut off.

Hamas is not a recognized state that we support. Israel is, and Israel is committing war crimes. There is never a justification for war crimes!

The protestors are literally chanting “we are Hamas”.

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And the ghouls defending them are also Hamas.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas and Hezbollah must be so delighted that all their useful idiots are protesting on their behalf.

Major terror organizations have expressed support for these protests and disruptive actions, which have long been a key part of Hamas’s plan to win hearts and minds in the West. As early as a decade ago, during the July-August 2014 Israel-Gaza war, Hamas’s Interior Ministry issued guidelines to social-media activists on framing events for a Western audience.

Every senior Hamas leader has also acknowledged the importance of the protests and said that influencing U.S. and Western policy is part of the organization’s strategy for destroying Israel. Khaled Mashal, the Hamas leader abroad, on Oct. 10 urged supporters to protest “in cities everywhere.” On Oct. 31, he said that the organization’s friends “on the global left” were responding to its appeal. On March 27, he called for millions to take to the streets in protest, saying there had been an unprecedented shift in global public opinion.

On Oct. 7, Hamas leader and former Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh alluded to this on Al Jazeera TV. He exhorted the “resistance abroad,” “strategic allies” and Muslims worldwide—all “partners in creating this great victory”—to “join this battle any way they can.” Hamas political bureau member Osama Hamdan underlined the “large impact” of the protests “in pressuring the decision makers in the world” in an interview on Nov. 12.

The collaboration between senior terrorists and their growing list of friends in the U.S. and the West has real-world consequences. These groups are designated terrorist for a reason. They don’t plan marches and rallies—they carry out terrorist attacks. And when the U.S. and Western activists, including college students, see that their marches and protests aren’t achieving their goals, they may consider their next steps—which will be influenced by the company they have been keeping.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/whos-behind-the-anti-israel-protests-hamas-gaza-hezbollah-talking-points-d2f538ca?st=6fiuwnv4kssokmc&reflink=article_copyURL_share

You know who are the biggest terrorists? AIPAC…. They have been controlling, manipulating U.S foreign policy since 1953, let that sink in for a moment. Middle East has no issues with Americans, yet we have had to pay the price in blood just because our politicians are bought and sold by Zionists, Israel has dragged us into every single conflict in the Middle East. Period.

Israel is governed by bonafied terrorists. Literally. I introduce you to Ben Gvir

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.

Speaking of idiot ^^. Where were all these oh-so-humanitarian protesters right after the atrocities of 10/7, speaking out about the Hamas terrorists and the horrific crimes they committed?? For some reason, you were all silent about that and only outraged after Israel defended itself. Why could that be? Think think think…

They were attacking Israel almost immediately, well right after celebrating the deaths of many hundreds of innocents Israelis.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.

Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.

For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?

DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.

Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.

For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?

DP. Yeah.

I could explain with nuance but you wouldn't read it. So I'll just stick with, yeah.

Lemme at least guess? Your nuance is that the tens of thousands dead in Gaza are actually the fault of Hamas for using them as ham shields, failing to turn themselves in, failing to self-immolate before a poster of Emperor Netanyahu, etc.

Did I summarize your "nuance" sufficiently to reflect your view?

DP. Your “Emperor Netanyahu” posts just make you look moronic.

And yes, of course Hamas is to blame for using their people as human shields. Who else should be to blame for that, you idiot?

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Let’s draw a simple analogy.

Japan launched a surprise attack on a US military installation on a December morning. The US fought the Japanese across the Pacific and to end the war killed tens of thousands with two atomic bombs.

Hamas attacked Israel on an October morning killing woman and children. Israel is responding to that attack as the US did. When Hamas is no more Israel will stop.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody or very few are protesting for terrorism you idiots. The protest is about raising awareness of the plight of Palestinians who are being massacred unjustly in the name of the Jewish state and/or the US support of this disgusting slaughter.

If the colleges were not seeing this level of protesting I'd be more worried that we've all lost our humanity. This is what young adults should be doing - calling out mainstream actions that are totally unacceptable to 99% of civilization.

For those who claim Jews have this right - you are all in denial of the definition of ethical and decent behavior. Just because Jews were attacked in no way justifies 34k people getting killed. There's no possible justification for this being the right thing to do. This is why Oct 7 gets mentioned over and over - revenge is the only statement that can be used so basically pro Israelis are killing out of revenge and that is morally pathetic and unacceptable from a US ally. That is worthy of protest.

Actually the October 7 attacks do justify it.

For the avoidance of doubt, are you arguing that the deaths in Israel on 10/7 justify the deaths in Gaza since then?

DP. Yes. And since we’re clearing things up here, you are arguing that Hamas using its people as human shields is acceptable and Hamas keeping Israeli hostages is perfectly fine - not to mention Hamas brutally attacking Israel in the first place. Just so we’re clear, you support Hamas?

Nothing further to reply to after “Yes”, other than to say your sociopathy and evil nature justifies any misfortune that may come your way.

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NP and I haven’t read all of the 70+ pages.

A quick question for those justifying these demonstrations: why not go to schools that meet your criteria instead of disrupting other students’ learning/graduation etc at schools where you are not happy?

Also, how many of these students are receiving aid/scholarships? Each and everyone of these students’ aid/scholarships need to end ASAP.

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Anonymous wrote:What about the American hostages currently held by Hamas? One guy is still alive but has had both arms cut off.

Hamas is not a recognized state that we support. Israel is, and Israel is committing war crimes. There is never a justification for war crimes!

The protestors are literally chanting “we are Hamas”.

Don't get all tingly and start mowing them down indiscriminately, IDF goon squad enthusiasts.

What is the right way to make sure terrorists stop attacking your people? It surely isn't giving them what they demand when their demand is your suicide. It isn't asking them nicely because they ain't nice.

It also doesn't seem to be negotiating with them because they reject offers and move goalposts.

So really, they need to be eliminated.

It certainly isn't murdering a bunch of women and children (72% of Israel's victims) who didn't do a damn thing to you. How many lives do you require before your blood lust is satisfied?

These vampires know no limits. The evil emerging from Emperor Netanyahu's scarred, craven visage says it all. Evil. Pure evil. Pretending otherwise is a just co-signing onto the banner of evil that Israel bears as it brings misery and suffering to the world.

Ooh, now tell us about the misery and suffering Hamas has brought to the world. But you won’t because YOU SUPPORT HAMAS.